Spaceway-1 is dead!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Fab55, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    If AT&T was smart, they would ditch SD, ditch all the BS channels, and concentrate all their satellites into providing 4K and 8K. If they could get Fox Sports, NBC Sports and ESPN to opt in, along with some other popular channels, they could be the only 4K provider. With ATSC 3.0 coming out, they could even work out something with networks to allow them to provide the locals in HD, but switch the programming to 4K for major events in the same way they do with Thursday night football now.
    There are a LOT of people with 4K TV, and cable service with caps preventing them from streaming much of it. Programmers arent doing much 4K because there is no effective distribution channel.
     
  2. P Smith

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    those are same chickens :)
     
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  3. P Smith

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    take a pick ;)
     
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  4. James Long

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    That would be a good way of going from 20 million subscribers to 1 million. It certainly would help other providers if AT&T stepped away from serving customers.
     
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  5. P Smith

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    Any update of a status SW-1 batteries ? Are they going explode or not ?
     
  6. compnurd

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    They will only potentially explode if they try to charge them which they are not going to do
     
  7. jamieh1

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    AT&T has said they aren't launching any more satellites so eventually gonna see the other sats start to fade out unless Directv changes hands again.
     
  8. P Smith

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    we knew that for last years … will see how the business will work out for ATT
     
  9. compnurd

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    This SAT had nothing nothing nothing to do with TV. There is less then a zero reason to replace it if needed
     
  10. slice1900

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    Not only have they not used Spaceway-1 for TV for a few years, it wasn't even DESIGNED to deliver TV. The Spaceway satellites (there were three, but Directv only ever used two of them for TV) were designed to deliver internet but they were able to repurpose them to deliver spot beam locals (this was done when Directv was owned by Hughes, who also owned the Spaceway satellites)

    What happened to Spaceway-1 was not a normal thing so there really isn't any cause for concern that it might happen to one of their other satellites. The fleet Directv is using going forward should last until at least 2030, perhaps longer. Sure there's always SOME chance of something unexpected happening to one of them as happened to SW1, but satellites have a lot of redundant systems built in so they can often tolerate failures with little or no service interruption. It isn't really worth worrying about "might happen", there are a lot of things that "might happen".
     
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    I would love to see DTV put all the channels in HD!!! i would also love to see DTV remove all of the useless channels like to one that has sex toys at 50% off the home shopping networks and the relego channels
     
  12. compnurd

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    Those channels pay to be there. If you don’t want them you can customize your guide
     
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  13. eletric chicken

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    AT&T tv requires a contract... well that's great to know. i know alot of people were interested in it with the new osprey box they released. many wanted to know how much the box was gonna cost..
     
  14. compnurd

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    This info has been known since August
     
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  15. compnurd

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    While we’re on the subject of everyone seeming to this this Sat was providing all of the TV for Directv and was brand new.


    • The satellite is notably several years beyond its intended lifespan, as Boeing told CNBC the incident happened “beyond-contract-life operation.”
     
  16. P Smith

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    That's irrelevant as you did cancel your DTV subscription !
     
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  17. James Long

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    One can still have hopes and wishes for what a provider will do without being a customer of that provider.
     
  18. Diana C

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    The problem with the batteries is not that they can't be charged, it is that they will heat up if DIScharged. They have been operating the satellite on solar power only.

    The danger is that when the satellite moves into earth's shadow next month they MUST use the batteries to maintain command and control. If the batteries get hot enough, the satellite could explode, spreading debris all through the Clarke belt. DirecTV wants to move Spaceway 1 to a graveyard orbit (~200km above GEO), but that requires that the satellite have only a few pounds of fuel. Spaceway 1 still has ~70lbs (IIRC) and so the FCC had to grant a waiver of the fuel rule - which they did on January 19th. DirecTV will vent as much fuel as they can, move the satellite, and decommission it prior to it being eclipsed. So, no real danger, as long as it is shut down before it moves into earth's shadow.
     
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    Holy crap, a Diana C sighting! Long time, no see!
     
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  20. P Smith

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    I would say opposite - Li-Ion batteries become prone to overheating and exploding when they are OVER-charged ! Eg having max amount of pure Lithium in metal form.
    My take of the case (only my personal guess based on years of testing similar batteries) is the sat charging system is broken and cannot shutoff the charging process, either stop by max voltage per element (4,2V if it's typical element) or/and thermosensor's malfunctioning… perhaps broken SW controlling it...bad voltage measuring circuit...etc
     

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