SPEEDHD (Charlie let us down)

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by racermurray, Jan 7, 2008.

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  1. DustoMan

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    Really, I think we need to see a change in the people that run F1 before we will see it in HD. You think they want to spend all that money updating equipment and cameras? Burnie would have to give up one of the money bags he uses as a pillow if they did that.

    I just want to see it in widescreen.
     
  2. Kman68

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    According to Mr. Hobbs (SPEED F1 Announcer), last years FOX races were in PAL (574p), AKA: World Feed. Most of this years races will feature the World Feed on SPEED HD, while not HD it is a vast improvement over 480i.

    If you look at the schedule on SPEEDtv.com Australia will be telecast in HD.

    http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/filter/date/2008-3-15
     
  3. Turbohawk

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    Ditto for me. I'm tired of missed programs too! Dish, your days are numbered. Get serious or you'll lose longtime customers. GET ON THE BALL CHARLIE!
     
  4. epsilon

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    I think you need to add several zeros after that figure... It would be great if it is HD indeed, but I'll take widescreen SD for now. I believe the recent MotoGP race was 16:9 SD.
     
  5. rey_1178

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    speed hd not in the list
     
  6. CoriBright

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    More than 5 usually in my living room (all the neighbors come round, no matter what the time of the race).

    It's more popular than perhaps Hobby imagines... and guess what, F1 race in ALL weathers. One drop of rain on the track and Nascar slithers to a halt. F1 racers just go for it!
     
  7. Suomi

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    I wish I had neighbors like that. I usually watch the races alone in my PJs.
     
  8. Schizm

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    +1

    I'm really excited the season is starting but am upset I have to deal with the crappy audio E* gives us for SpeedTV.
     
  9. rey_1178

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    charlie mentioned towards the end that they are negotiating for speed hd
     
  10. James Long

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    But, alas, it was not one of the featured logos. :(
     
  11. jackinbox

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    I didn't really "hillbillies" literally. I was referring to the perception that Formula One is a bunch of high-brow elitists while NASCAR is often perceived as a bunch of beer-chugging "hillbillies". Yet NASCAR was able to get it done.

    As far as the networks, I'm talking about F-1's world feed. Every F-1 race has more viewers worldwide than the Super Bowl does in America. There's no excuse for the world's 2nd most popular sport not to be made available in HD.
     
  12. bonipie

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    Another one really disappointed that SpeedHD is not on the list. We watch Supercross and Motocross as well as other racing. We get a tease every now and then when CBS televises in HD, and these motorcycle races are in HD on Speed. Bummer.
     
  13. jackinbox

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    Really? So there is no NTSC world feed? Interesting. I thought I had heard that the feeds were available in both PAL and NTSC (for North America, South America, Japan, Korea). It seems like the PAL conversion to NTSC would be easier handled by FOM rather than each individual country. But who am I to second guess Mr. Hobbs? :D
     
  14. James Long

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    What is HD in the rest of the world? I know here HD is 1080i or 720p (or equivalents). Is the rest of the world on the same page as each other or are we talking multiple definitions of high definition? That makes a global challenge harder.
     
  15. phrelin

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    What is conspicuous about the list is that no News Corporation (Fox) channels are listed including the general audience favorite Fx and Speed discussed here. Sounds like contract problems. News Corporation is, of course, totally into squeezing the last dollar out of the masses. It's a mantra and consistent with its political philosophy. Not to mention that until last month it was a major owner of DirectTV.
     
  16. rey_1178

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    but guys remember charlie did mention last night that they were trying to negotiate this channel. right? so at least i think there is something positive in that. more than what we had before 9pm yesterday. :)
     
  17. JohnL

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    Jackinbox,

    Actually their are a couple of reasons F1 is not in HD. First off the F1 races are held in venues in different countries all over the world. This requires a huge amount of infrastructure as well as getting the local feed and getting it to multiple providers worldwide. It also assumes that the vastly majority of F1 fans have access to an HD provider as well as a significant percentage of those viewers have an HD display.

    Lastly there are different native resolutions of HD worldwide. Take an HD source that is not the same native resolution and rescaling it degrades the image quality as well.

    NASCAR HD is broadcast to a market that uses the same native resolution and modulation schemes. NASCAR doesn't have to create a new distribution chain at every track and rely on a different provider to create that feed and then distribute it at EVERY Venue.

    Don't get me wrong I would love to see F1 in HD, but this is not going to happen till next season or beyond.

    John
     
  18. HobbyTalk

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    There are a couple of other issues here that also is a factor. For E*, worldwide viewership means nothing as that isn't their market. What really mattes is eyeballs in the U.S. and NASCAR has far more viewers in the U.S. then F1.

    Bernie controls the broadcasting of F1 worldwide. They produce it and broadcasters pay him to distribute it. Since F1 is popular in most parts of the world, they will pay top dollar for whatever Bernie feeds them. HD also is relatively rare in most other parts of the world (End of 2006 US and Japan had over 90% of HDTV sets worldwide). And we all know how Bernie is on his precious F1 so I suspect they pay top dollar, yen, etc.

    For NASCAR, the broadcasters (FOX, ESPN, etc.) are the ones that produce the show and pay NASCAR for that right. Since it is the broadcaster that is the one that is actually putting the show on the air, it is in their best interest to have it in HD as they can then get more $$$$ from the advertisers.
     
  19. kstevens

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    Charlie let you down, not us......
     
  20. slowmo

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    Somewhat useless to compare NASCAR to F1 or to speculate as to Bernie's motives.

    Regardless:

    Speed is already broadcasting a variety of programs / races in HD. Plus, the PQ of any foreign-sourced programming (MotoGP, F1) that is shown in 16:9 SD on Speed HD is dramatically better than it's crappy 4:3 SD counterpart on regular Speed.

    This thread continues to get off track as some have essentially "excused" Dish by citing that we get plenty of NASCAR on FOXHD (ignorantly assuming that Speed fans prioritize NASCAR to begin with), that certain programming is not yet available in HD, or that the number of Speed viewers is relatively few. I have a difficult time understanding why the last two points are relevant given that such points are common to a large number of HD channels already carried by Dish.

    I have received my new subscriber rebate in full and I've recently completed my commitment. Racing season has begun. Your move Dish...
     
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