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Sports Packages and Single Team Subscriptions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Rob37, Jul 13, 2017.

  1. boukengreen

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    I live more then 40 miles from my local stations broadcast towers and have never had problems picking them up weather it be analog or digital signals
     
  2. AZ.

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    Add a few mountains and a couple of valleys, 30 miles gets tuff!
     
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  3. James Long

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    "Decades" infers that one had reception problems before the digital conversion. Pre-conversion people "suffered" through less than perfect analog reception. Many of those with poor antennas lost stations in the digital conversion when "a little static" on a weak analog turned in to "can't lock signal" on digital.

    While many people *choose* to pay a cable or satellite provider (mostly satellite in rural areas where cable does not reach) to receive channels. Most viewers can choose to invest in a good antenna if they don't want to pay cable or satellite.

    There is absolutely NO PROMISE that every home in America will receive free OTA television. If you believe that there is then you are lying to yourself.
     
  4. slice1900

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    A lot of markets don't have one easily identifiable 'nearest team'. There's no NFL team in the state of Iowa, so here in eastern Iowa the local stations have changed between the Packers, Bears and Vikings over the years - depending on how they've been playing. Since those are all NFC, if none of them are playing an AFC game for CBS to show they have switched between the Chiefs, Broncos, Colts and Patriots!

    It doesn't matter who your favorite team is here, you won't get to watch it for free on any consistent basis. The games they choose will change once your team has a bad year and some other team is hot, and if they have a prolonged streak of sucking, you will only see them play a few times a year. People in NFL DMAs like say Dallas will see all their games, even if they are terrible (the fans may not want to watch them, but they'll show them)
     
  5. CTJon

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    40 miles is nothing - go to places in Maine or other states where they are hundreds of miles and many mountains from local broadcasts.
     
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  6. James Long

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    And if they are they always have been.
     
  7. SamC

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    Yes, since the dawn of TV, rural Americans have had to pay for cable. Cable's first name was CATV, community antenna TV. For many people, including me when I was a child, CATV was the ONLY method of receiving TV.

    And it still is. Millions of people simply CANNOT received ANY TV, and millions more cannot receive "all" four networks, without paying. This it true in most of the mountain west, many parts of the midwest, Appalachia, northern New England, the Ozarks, Alaska, many places.

    And, yes, the Comminications Act is a promise. The Supreme Court got it right in Fortnightly, and Congress screwed it up.
     
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    That's because Congress is the opposite of progress.
     
  9. James Long

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    Cable (and CATV) did not exist at the dawn of TV.

    Cable (and CATV) did not exist when I was a child. TV existed.

    No. There is absolutely NO promise of reception. There is a promise that one feed on each broadcaster's transmission be free and unscrambled. But no promise that the signals will be received.
     
  10. longrider

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    While I agree about the dawn of TV i can remember when I was a child in the 60s visiting my grandmother in Wheatland WY and having a full selection of TV. There were no local stations, one was the Cheyenne station and I would guess the others were from Casper and Scottsbluff NE. I cant verify how it was done but I dont remember any antennas on the TV or house
     
  11. SamC

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    The first CATV systems were launced Oregon, Arkansas, and Pennsylvania in 1948, according to the National Cable Television Association. While you can nitpick about Philo Farnsworth and non-standard experimental broadcasts, NTSC was adopted as a standard in May 1941. TV set making stopped on December 7, 1941 until the Japanese surrender. Exactly 6 stations existed on that August 1945, with only 44K sets (90% of those in NYC) in use.

    So, yes CATV has existed since the dawn of TV.

    Umm, yes there is. First there are the still valid parts of Fortnightly, and the right of those outside Grade B contours to receive distant locals when local into locals are not available, this is a recognition that EVERY person must be afforded network programming in some manner. And, of course, there is the fundamental truth that the Communications Act only grants TV stations a license to "operate in the public interest as a public trustee". Providing a signal for the public is a part of that obligation.
     
  12. James Long

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    Assuming your dates are correct TV still predates CATV. And since your premise is "millions forced to subscribe" perhaps you should fast forward to when CATV reached their 2 millionth subscriber and tell us, on that day, how many more millions of non-subscribers had TVs There is no compulsion to subscribe.

    There is NO requirement that every person receive every network signal. None, nada, zilch. Just your poor interpretation of the truth.

    If, as you falsely claim, every person must be afforded network programming why are distants an optional service? The law is permissive ... it allows a carrier to deliver distants to a qualified person. It does not in any way shape or form require a carrier to deliver distants. Nor does any law require all networks be carried in a market. The laws applying to satellite do not even require that local channels be carried AT ALL. **Satellite is not required to carry locals.**

    (If a satellite carrier chooses to carry one local TV channel, regardless of ownership or affiliation they must OFFER carriage to all other channels in that station's market. If a station chooses to refuse carriage or charge for carriage the satellite carrier is not required to carry such a station. Cable companies are required to carry local stations, but only as a percentage of their number of channels and without regard to network affiliation.)

    If your claims were true the laws would be written very differently.
     
  13. SamC

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    Nah, lets just go with your childhood memories, which you present as fact, rather than what the cable industry's own history page says.
     
  14. James Long

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    As long as 1941 happened before 1948 I can live with my interpretation of the facts. I can also live with the honest interpretation of the law - which does not require every TV home receive network programming (and never has).
     

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