Star Trek Timeline

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Ken S, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Carl Spock

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    Agreed. When DS9 was good, it was some of the best Trek ever made. When it was bad, it was Berman and Braga at their worst. Seasons 1 & 2 mostly stunk. Season 3 was OK. Season 4, pretty good. Seasons 5 & 6 were both excellent, but DS9 started to fall apart again in season 7, not badly but it simply wasn't as good. And then there were the Ferengi episodes. Each season had one or two. The less said about them, the better, along with the "O'Brien Must Suffer" episodes that cropped up each year.


    Over on TrekBBS, I run a caption contest. Two of my regulars, Rat Boy and Shatmandu, combined for this birthday gem:

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    Spock: Dr. McCoy, I neither "look like a monkey" nor do I "smell like one, too."
     
  2. dfergie

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    Yeah but TNG had the Wesley episodes that were pretty bad...
     
  3. Stuart Sweet

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    "The boy?"
     
  4. Ken S

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    Stuart, You're correct...Wrath of Khan was a good movie.
     
  5. Ken S

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    DS9: I probably only watched a few episodes originally seemed to remind me of a dramatized version of the bar scene from Star Wars. I also have to admit I like a little more phasers and ship to ship combat.

    TNG: For me...it had a couple of problems. First, it wasn't Star Trek to me...where was Kirk, McCoy, Spock, etc. I probably resented the new guys in one of my favorite shows. Second, Lavar Burton was the Roots guy to me...and the goofy glasses...and, yes...then there was the annoying kid. Kid don't belong on a star ships. If I want to watch teen drama I'd watch The Brady Bunch :).

    Voyager I barely watched was Janeway the female captain? If so...I recall her kind of looking like a principal.

    Anyway, I'm gonna give them a fresh look see if I can't get some fun out them.

    Oh, Spock...don't get me wrong I'm not saying the Enterprise theme was a work of art...I just felt it wasn't all that bad for what they were trying to convey...especially when they sped it up a bit for the later episodes.

    I have relatives that are hard-core Trekies...to the point where they can recite the dialog from any of the original series shows by heart. They didn't like Enterprise at all. I think a lot of the series hardcore fans felt the same way dooming it from the start. It's a tough audience to please.
     
  6. machavez00

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    I was soo looking forward to Wrath of Khan on HD DVD, looks like I have to wait for the BD live version
     
  7. puckhead

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    I'm not sure what I thought was more hilarious, the caption or Shatmandu. !rolling
     
  8. MichaelP

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    Definitely the caption. Although "shatmandu" is pretty funny. :lol:

    Regards,
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  9. Carl Spock

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    Not only is it a great screen name, but Shatmandu is a very funny fellow. He can also be wickedly crude. In a board that is nominally rated "PG" but can drop into "NC-17" at the drop of a Sulu-is-gay joke, he's right at home. Shatmandu wrote the caption. Rat Boy did the photoshop.
     
  10. scooper

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    I liked all the series - they each had their strengths and weaknesses, good moments and bad. Enjoy them for what they are. I was kind of sorry that Enterprise didn't get a full 7 season run like the rest did, but that's show business.

    The movies - the even numbered ones are generally better than the odd numbered ones.
     
  11. Drew2k

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    I'm glad you're giving it another shot ... DS:9 was my favorite of all of the ST series, because IMHO it had the most character developmetn, long story arcs that really delivered, and great acting. The thing is, you have to wait for this to develop, mid-to-late first season things start heating up, and they improve even more when a crossover character arrives. (This is the only ST series I own on DVD... back when there were $60 per season!)
     
  12. Ken S

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    Off topic, but George Takei now does guest appearances on a pretty regular basis on the Howard Stern show. He's pretty funny and also puts up with a lot of jokes. He's also more than willing to talk about his cast mates (especially Shatner) from the original series. Shatner also visits the show from time to time and can be entertaining...just because he's Shatner.
     
  13. Galaxie6411

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    If you ever liked the story Arc of Babylon 5 and the large space battles you will like the last 2-2.5 seasons of DS9 when the dominion war finally starts, although there are some dead episodes in that period, it tied together very nicely. Just seeing hundreds, if not thousands, of Federation ships and Dominion ships in the battles in the last season is well worth watching DS9.

    I've never been a TOS fan, it is just too cheesy but I enjoy all the other series'. I also agree to watch them in order of their airing since Enterprise has a lot of TNG references. Plus it is cool to see how certain technologies that you know existed later don't exist during Enterprise or are in their infancy, such as teleportation.
     
  14. TNGTony

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    Actually TNG ended in May and Voyager started in September of the same year. Voyager is TNG season 8.

    As to time line, in "The Neutral Zone" (last episode season 1 TNG) Data stated that they

    were in the year 2364 using the old calendar.

    The last season of TNG would have been 2371.

    The last season of Voyager was 7 years after that, (2378).

    DS9 fits in the middle from 2369 (about--it started in January, not September) to 2375.

    Stardates in TNG/DS9/Voy are simple to decipher given that info.

    Stardate 45500.1
    4= Decade
    5= year
    500=where in the year (000 beginning-999end) 500=July 1 in the present calendar
    .1= time of day. 0 = midnight, 99999=end of the day. They had two digit at one time (.25) if I remember correctly, to designate 6am.

    I never got into Enterprise, but they actually give specific dates in that series and seasons do not correspond with calendar years.
    Enterprise starts on Apr. 16, 2151, or about 100 years after the TNG movie "First Contact" when they go back in time to fight the Borg and ends shortly after Jan. 19, 2155.

    The original series is harder to pin down the exact dates.
    There are exactly 78 years from the disappearance of Kirk in the nexus to the beginning of the TNG portion of "Generations" movie.

    200 years was "just about right" in a a 1967 episode making it 2167, but that can't be right since that's only a decade after Enterprise. So, how about "somewhere in the late 2200s and the movies peak into the very early 2300s.

    See ya
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  15. JeffChap

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    Voyager actually turned out to be one of my favorite series, after they replaced that mousey Kes with 7 of 9. The "Scorpion" episode ranks right up there with TNG's "Best of Both Worlds".

    I could never get into DS-9 or even Enterprise too much. Once you get used to transporters, shields and phasers, it's hard to go back to shuttlecraft, hull plating, and phase cannons.
     
  16. Stuart Sweet

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    Tony, I thought that every season of TNG and DS9 they started a new "year", meaning season 1 was 41000, season 42000, something like that. Of course you're the expert.
     
  17. Snoofie

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    I look back on DS9 the most fondly of all the Trek series because it was the first one that I watched from the first episode to the last on broadcast TV as it aired. I watched Classic Trek on Sundays when I was a kid, but they were aired out of sequence, TNG was something I watched often, but it wasn't weekly viewing until the 3rd season. By the time DS9 started I was absorbed into the whole Trek universe and every Saturday evening I would go to my friends house and we would watch DS9. Didn't matter what we were doing we dropped everything and got home by 6:00pm to watch it. I just loved the dark and dirty image of DS9 and I don't remember very many episodes that I just hate. There are many more TNG episodes that I still can't watch to this day, mainly any episode focusing on Geordi and his love life.
     
  18. TNGTony

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    You are correct. But what was never established is when the TNG era year started and ended. Heck just in the last 400 years the beginning of the calendar year has changed 5 times. April Fools is called that because of the change of the new year from April 1 to January 1. There are also three distict "years" on Earth now. The Chinese and the Hebrew years do not coincide with the western new years. The Easter Orthodox calendar is different from the Roman calendar.

    So yes, the beginning of each season in TNG/DS9/Voyager is a new year for them. We just do not know when their new year's day is. :) That is why the question mark on what year (usung the current accepted western calendar) DS9 started. It was stardate 46379. Or About the end of April 2367 if "000"= January 1 on our calendar. But that has never been authoritatively established.

    See ya
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  19. Carl Spock

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    All series, any season: $35.49

    All movies: $6.99

    amazon.com

    I've seen the low prices on the movies for a while but any series for only $35.49 a season? That's new and very cheap.
     
  20. dstager

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    I can tell you that ST:TNG will never be relesed in any HD format because it was edited and mastered on video. Assuming they still have all the raw film footage, they'd have to re-edit the entire series from scratch to create a high definition master. Perhaps a 480p HD release is possible. That's the best they could do from existing materials.

    The original series' first season was released on HD-DVD. I imagine that all three seasons of the original and all the movies will make it to Blu-Ray eventually. Star Trek Enterprise was broadcast in HD, so that could be on Blu-Ray someday.

    I believe that TNG, DS9, and Voyager are all limited to standard definition original source material.
     

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