1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Star Wars saga to be released in Blu-Ray in 2011

Discussion in 'The Movies' started by Lord Vader, Jul 31, 2010.

  1. Aug 1, 2010 #21 of 175
    spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    12,566
    61
    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
    Eh, I don't see the big deal. Both of those elements are very minor in the grand scheme of things.

    If they would have changed it so Darth Vader wasn't Lukes father or something, that would be one thing, but changing who shoots first, no big deal.
     
  2. Aug 1, 2010 #22 of 175
    spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    12,566
    61
    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
    I don't own a copy either, though I'll probably get the blu ray eventually.
     
  3. Aug 1, 2010 #23 of 175
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,611
    382
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    The notion of Directors' Cut and acceptance of that by the public is very dicey.

    In Star Wars vs Lord of the Rings, for example... People go insane demanding that the extended version of "Lord" are superior and are the only ones that should be released and seen. For Star Wars, however, many of those same people insist that only the "original" movies count. I fail to see how someone can be on those opposite sides with a straight face.

    As to the notion of a Director revisiting and deciding after-the-fact that he wasn't happy and wanted a different release... I can see how that might be possible sometimes... and we all know studios interfere and demand some changes to support a release...

    For my money, though, once a movie is released to the theater... I want that version. Even IF I see a Director's Cut/Extended edition later and like that too... I would always want the original as well as the "new" version if I liked the movie enough to own it.
     
  4. Aug 1, 2010 #24 of 175
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    45,940
    1,023
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    My response is more of a "Really? They changed that?" I guess I never got in to the films enough to notice every detail.

    BTW: I only have three versions of IV-V-VI (two VHS and 2004 DVD). I have I on VHS and then I-II-III on DVD (which from the descriptions on the packages appears to be a box set, although I can't find the box).

    The idea of re release the same movie every few years and expect people to buy it again burned out on me. I'm especially annoyed at movies that make a quick DVD release and expect a second purchase later when there is a special edition (such as Avatar) or those that have a single disc vs two disc release and charge too much for the second disc. DVDs used to be special.

    Now I'd rather wait for the $10 rack or the $7 or $5 bin for most movies. If it isn't on sale it probably is overpriced.
     
  5. Aug 1, 2010 #25 of 175
    Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    21,331
    247
    Nov 15, 2005
    Generally, I completely agree. So often the add-ins don't do anything but reduce the movie. Slow down the pacing, take away from a tight plot line, or otherwise reduce overall.

    That said, I think The Abyss, Director's Cut was greatly improved over the theatrical release, precisely for the reason you mention--studio cuts for time--really hurt the movie. Putting back the whole subplot elements returned the movie to a whole.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  6. Aug 1, 2010 #26 of 175
    Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

    8,741
    42
    Sep 20, 2004
    Galactic Empire
    Then why even post in this thread? :confused:
     
  7. Aug 1, 2010 #27 of 175
    Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    4,567
    0
    Sep 3, 2004
    Charles Dickens was supposedly never happy with A Christmas Carol and tweaked it for his entire life. How much of that was because of artistic merit versus showmanship, we'll never know. He read an edited version of the piece during his speaking tours, which sold out with the fury that major rock concerts do today. To make A Christmas Carol more of a crowd pleaser could easily have been as great a motivator to him as would be better character development.

    With new possible Ansel Adams negatives coming to light last week, the photographer's work in the darkroom has also become more public. It is clear Adams printed the same negative completely differently at times in his life.

    Bob Dylan rewrote the lyrics to one of his greatest songs, Tangled Up In Blue, and for years performed the new lyrics. I thought they were poorer, less evocative and more literal, than the first ones and am grateful he's gone back to the original words in concert.

    Art is always changing. Sometimes it is the artist that makes the change. Other times it is the viewer that has changed. We no longer see the Frenchman that created the Statue of Liberty but instead view the monument as a patriotic one. Michelangelo's statue of David was initially viewed by the citizens of Florence as a symbol of civic pride. We could care less about that and instead look at David as simply beautiful.

    So go ahead, George, change the audio and anything else you want. As Humphrey Bogart said in a movie that was ruined when it was colorized, "We'll always have Paris", or in my case with Star Wars, a Cinerama dome in Denver where I saw it through twice, back to back, on its first run.
     
  8. Aug 1, 2010 #28 of 175
    spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    12,566
    61
    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
    Perhaps that would have been a change that Michael Curtiz himself would have made in an effort to continually improve his work.
     
  9. Aug 1, 2010 #29 of 175
    Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    4,567
    0
    Sep 3, 2004
    Maybe he would. If he had, he certainly wouldn't have eliminated the moody romanticism of the film, which the colorized version lacked.
     
  10. Aug 2, 2010 #30 of 175
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,611
    382
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    It's not a new tradition either...

    Several classic artists (painters) re-used their canvass... so many of our today treasured historical pieces of art wouldn't exist if what was originally on the canvas hadn't been painted over and lost in time!

    At least in the modern equivalent we have the possibility of getting original Star Wars + new Star Wars.

    My main hope (A New Hope??) is that when we get Star Wars on Blu we will get either new/old released at the same time in one package OR they keep them separate.

    When the original trilogy came out on DVD it was the new ones only... later they were re-released with a 2nd disc that contained the original versions... and that sucked having to re-buy the movies again because there was no way to get the originals by themselves.
     
  11. Aug 2, 2010 #31 of 175
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    45,940
    1,023
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    Generally an entirely new painting ... more like a playhouse changing the performance from Oklahoma! to The Music Man and often done due to limited resources.

    With old paintings to find the painting underneath one has to destroy the new masterpiece (x ray can only show so much).

    Mr Lucas is smart in figuring out a way to get people to pay for the same basic movie over and over again. I wish he would have invested his effort in developing new films instead of reworking the old standbys.
     
  12. Aug 2, 2010 #32 of 175
    Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    4,567
    0
    Sep 3, 2004
    For every Clint Eastwood, who has done his best work late in life, there are a dozen George Lucas', whose spark goes out by their '40s.
     
  13. Aug 2, 2010 #33 of 175
    kevinwmsn

    kevinwmsn Hall Of Fame

    1,355
    3
    Aug 19, 2006
    Isn't it time for another trilogy... episodes 7-9?
     
  14. Aug 2, 2010 #34 of 175
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    37,060
    287
    Jun 18, 2006
    Maybe... But a lot. Of that storyline has already been covered in novels.
     
  15. Aug 2, 2010 #35 of 175
    ProfLonghair

    ProfLonghair Hall Of Fame

    1,119
    3
    Sep 26, 2006
    CMH
    Wow, makes me feel bad for trading mine for a bottle of whiskey in college...
     
  16. Aug 2, 2010 #36 of 175
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    45,940
    1,023
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    Episodes 7-9 will be released via Twitter. Gotta keep up with the new media.


    I'm glad someone didn't dismiss Ian Flemming's work and say that it had already been covered in novels. Or J K Rowling's. Movie franchises are built on keeping the story going.
     
  17. Aug 2, 2010 #37 of 175
    Lee L

    Lee L Hall Of Fame

    3,134
    0
    Aug 15, 2002
    Ok, I had all but #2 and #6.

    That Definitive collection simply redone for Blu Ray would be my dream. At teh very least, I hope they allow the original versions on teh discs somewhere, if only as a special feature.
     
  18. Aug 3, 2010 #38 of 175
    djlong

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    4,343
    57
    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    I want "The Originals" but then I find myself caveating it.. I want the scenes with Biggs, the cleaned up effects.. BUT HAN SHOT FIRST!!!!!
     
  19. Aug 3, 2010 #39 of 175
    dpeters11

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    16,335
    501
    May 30, 2007
    Cincinnati
    I'm kind of the same way. The two things that come to mind first about the Special Edition that I hated was Han and Greedo and the Jabba scene. Cut that completely out, Jabba looks horrible in New Hope.
     
  20. Aug 3, 2010 #40 of 175
    Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    4,567
    0
    Sep 3, 2004
    It did look awful.

    Lucas should redo it again. [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page