Starlink opens to 'First Come First Served'

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  1. Feb 9, 2021 #1 of 92
    1948GG

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    Title says it all, semi-closed beta kind of ends, rush to buy any loose systems begins. One has to wonder how many of these first gen dishes were built and how quickly any cheaper 2nd gen can roll off the line.
     
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    When you enter your order info, you'll be told whether Starlink is available in your area yet, and if not, you can reserve your order with a $99 refundable deposit.
     
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    SpaceX Starlink opens preorders but slots are limited in each region
    "SpaceX this week began accepting preorders for Starlink broadband, asking for $99 deposits for service that would be available in the second half of this year.

    To start the process, you can go to Starlink's website and enter your email and service address. The overall cost is $499 for hardware, $50 for shipping and handling, and $99 for monthly service, plus tax. These are the same prices charged in the ongoing beta, which is limited to parts of the northern United States and southern Canada."
     
  4. P Smith

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    When it will open for people locating abroad ?
     
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    You can sign up on their website. International addresses accepted.
    Starlink
     
  6. P Smith

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    Damn ! Only local capitol is avail :( eg is not for me; plus it could be set in 2022 ...
     
  7. OneMarcilV

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    I read this.

    ‘’Musk’s comment raises the prospect users can stay connected to SpaceX’s high-speed internet network no matter where they are—even if they're in a car—so long as their Starlink satellite dish remains with them. The dish will also need power, and a clear view of the sky. But the technology could be a gamechanger for people living in remote areas, who often lack access to stable high-speed internet. ‘’

    So if this is internet service is obtained using a dish sort if like out different satellite providers use. How would the the above work?

    How would one attach this dish to their vehicle?


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    There have been many vehicle (auto, truck, boat, ship) dish mounted systems over the years, some of them even phased array like the starlink 'dish'. I'm sure that as dish move/movement becomes available with the system, mounting hardware of various types will come out of the woodwork. But I wouldn't expect it for at least another 6-12 months, if (and it may be a big if) the launch schedule can ramp up to 2 launches per month minimum, which so far in 2021 has not been achievable.

    And, laser equipped sats will be almost nessesary, and so far they have been unable to equip all of those launched at a price point to make it doable.
     
  9. OneMarcilV

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    Never saw a vehicle with a satellite dish attached to it ever. That is why I asked


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  10. P Smith

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    Look at RVs from up - see the dome ?
     
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    There have been simple hardware that mount small dbs dishes (much smaller than even the original 18" types, I had one that was 14"), both for directv and dish, that attach to the rear view mirrors on big rigs (18 wheelers) that long haul truckers use for when they take a rest.

    But the phased array dbs types that have been made for vehicles are in the $5-6k range, which is why the cost of the starlink systems, especially as they both transmit and recieve, are figured to be many times the $500 they charge for it. I'm sure a lot of re-engineering is currently taking place in trying to get the cost of the terminal systems down; and I wonder exactly what the antenna systems in those large domes they are placing around to connect to the fiber look like 'under the dome'. I suspect larger variations of the phased array or since there are multiple units in every one of the pictures I've seen, maybe each unit is a parabolic dish tracking an individual sat.
     
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    it COULD on certain conditions
    we should see Musk's response (actually his engineers)
     
  15. OneMarcilV

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    I believe I will stay with my Verizon Hot Spot device.


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    It appears the DISH argument is based on an assumption of facts not in evidence...
     
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    The assumption that Starlink will have more than a handful of customers in each area and will need a second beam?

    The evidence is in the linked story. Rebuttal from Starlink would be appropriate.
     
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    I'll be interested in Starlink's rebuttal as well, but the complaint is based on the assumption that Starlink will deviate from its previously submitted plans. Dish does make a valid case why they think that will be necessary, but until we hear from Starlink, we don't know whether that's a valid assumption or not. I find it hard to believe that Starlink engineers didn't foresee a need for more than the single frequency beam per channel and come up with a technology to accommodate that need without interfering with DBS, just as technology improvements conquered the MVDDS and NGSO FSS interference potential in the same frequency band. In any event, it will be interesting to see the Starlink response...
     
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    I received this neat offer for Starlink.

    The only thing wrong is STARLINK does not offer to install this. Other wise I would purchase.
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    You or a friend/relative can't unfold a tripod and plug in a couple of wires? Or do you need a roof or eve mount that a local handyman could easily do at minimal expense if no free help is available...
     
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