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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by trdrjeff, Sep 1, 2011.
And ceases negotiations for contract extension.
I can't help thinking the timing of this release is not coincidental, since this is the day Netflix's prices go up sharply.
It'll be hard to keep that $8/mo price point working with content makers/owners taking that stance
Sounds like just another corporation that wants to extract blood from a turnip.
Netflix subs who also sub to STARZ should cancel STARZ and send Starz an email why they canceled.
"Greed is good!"
Before IPTV finally gets sorted out we will see more and more of this. The studios really are very slow to move into the future. They are trying to preserve what they've always had. They are pissed.
It's very interesting to watch.
IMHO, someday in the not too distant future TV will work like the music business does today. I just hope the innovation isn't sucked out of the content like what has happened with today's music.
This decision is a result of our strategy to protect the premium nature of our profit .......
The MSOs couldn't afford to carry Starz if Netflix carried the same content at half the price. It just didn't make sense. Thus Starz had to either double the cost to Netflix (or more) or do this.
Netflix is going to see this again and again...
All the people who think IPTV or Netflix will be free or cheap forever are misguided. IF enough people shift to those sources for content, the price of that content will rise there too... OR people will stop creating entertainment content.
I grant that some cable/satellite offerings seem overpriced at times... but all the people involved in creating the content need to make money too... so I have always seen these IPTV scenarios rising in price at some point to come closer to the other choices.
Netflix was paying about 25M a year for Starz content, and it wanted as much as 400M a year after 1Q12, when the contract expires.
Unfortunately for Netflix, Starz provided half of the most popular 30 streaming titles.
I'm curious to see how Netflix subscribers will paint the "bad guy" here... Netflix or Starz.
When Dish loses a channel over price negotiations... people blame Dish and say they want their channels.
Will Netflix subscribers be mad at Netflix here?
Most of them had cancelled their Starz subscription. That is the whole issue.
So they want to charge a person twice for the same programming eh? Premium streaming fee Well, I canceled Netflix last month due to their cost increase (for me). Was looking at the Google option, but unfortunately none of my multitude of different boxes/devices will stream it, and Im not buying yet another box. Just more money to give to DirecTv
Basically, if you want access to Starz content, ya gotta pay Starz so they can buy it. "So who you gonna call?"
As a Netflix Subscriber I can answer that for you. I will say it's 75% Starz fault and 25% Netflix's fault. It's mostly Starz fault for basically trying to extort money from Netflix but Netflix is also partially at fault for not seeing that this was going to happen and starting streaming at a higher price point. If they had priced streaming at say $15 a month instead of $9 at its inception it would be easier for us customers to see going to $20 a month.
Well, since I dont support greedy corporations any more than I am forced to by lack of other choices, I'll do without Starz, like I do without Extra Innings, Sunday Ticket, smart phone data plans, top tier speed internet, etc. Some of them I have no choice to support, like the $15 I pay for gas each month (drive a 75mpg motorcycle as often as possible), and the grocery stores (gotta eat)
My take. I'd bet that Starz wanted $1.50 per subscriber per month, with the sub count updated every quarter. Based on 25M subscribers, Netflix would have had to disburse an annualized 450M, up from today's 25M.
Who do I blame?
ESPN, for manipulating the DTH and Cable carriers into paying 4.50 per subscriber per month.
Well, since I have hardly used the Netflix streaming, this does not have much effect on me. I set up my account to be disc only so I don't think my bill will go up much, if any.
Probably not. 1 disc a month is set to be $7.99/month, which is what it previously was. I had 1 disc and streaming for $9.99/month, but that will now be $15.98/month. I dropped back to streaming only.