States cracking down on Left Lane Slowpokes

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  1. Jun 5, 2014 #281 of 578
    TXD16

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    My attitude has always been that if someone is driving faster than I am, regardless of any "official" speed limit, they are doing exactly as I wish---getting the heck out of my way. In light of that and the common-sense rule I was taught quite some time ago that if you are being passed on the right, you are in the wrong lane, I move over as quickly and whenever possible, regardless of whatever lane I may be occupying at the time.

    And although I grew up and learned to drive in SoCal, where traffic has always been atrocious, and I now drive daily in the Houston metro area, where traffic is far worse than merely atrocious, I have spent some quality time in West Texas, where people regularly, willingly, gratefully, and considerately move to the shoulder on a two-lane highway in order to let a faster vehicle pass and then give a friendly wave (not a single finger) after having done so. Man, do I miss those times and those people.
     
  2. Jun 5, 2014 #282 of 578
    James Long

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    I miss the wide shoulder Texas roads that make that easy. With roads that have less than half a lane for a shoulder (most have only a couple of feet) pulling over for faster traffic isn't trivial.
     
  3. Jun 5, 2014 #283 of 578
    Joe Tylman

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    Fuel economy and breaking distance have more to do with it than anything. I can understand where you're coming from as I feel the minimum speed limit on highways should be 75 but if you check http://www.mpgforspeed.com/ you can get a rough estimate of MPG at speeds. If you notice the speed limits are usually reduced by presidents during fuel/oil crisis and then it takes forever for them to go back up. Many studies have proven that there are less or the same accidents at higher speed from 55 to 66 to 75. While level of severity is generally consistent with the terms of the accident.
     
  4. Jun 5, 2014 #284 of 578
    Rich

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    That would be nice. Build up your bruised credibility. :rolling:

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  5. Jun 5, 2014 #285 of 578
    Rich

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    For whatever reason, I'm a good general test taker. I've also been accredited by the company I worked for to create tests and defend them in court (never had to do that, but just the thought of it made me take special care when creating a test).

    I agree with you, tests aren't a measure of your proficiency unless the test is "hands on" and then it becomes more subjective.

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  6. Jun 5, 2014 #286 of 578
    Rich

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    This was like one of those April Fool's Day photo shop things (remember the goose that hit the D* dish photo?). I fall for those things every time. I was reading the questions and wondering what kind of idiots they had making up the driving tests in CA. Guess I'm just too gullible.

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  7. Jun 5, 2014 #287 of 578
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    Good chuckle! Thanx.

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  8. Jun 5, 2014 #288 of 578
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    A little story about going slow in the fast lane of an Interstate. PA does have a law requiring drivers to keep right unless overtaking slower traffic, A few months ago in the Lehigh Valley a young black woman driving a new Mercedes was stopped by the Staties for going 5 miles under the speed limit in the fast lane on I78. The cop saw something suspicious on the back floor, asked her to open her trunk and found a small quantity of drugs. I78 is a known drug route so she was arrested. The charges were eventually dismissed because the State Police could not show any record of recent enforcement of the "keep right" law and the presumption was that she was profiled and therefore the subsequent search and discovery were illegal.
     
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    Laxguy

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    Presumption of profiling just because she was stopped?? OMG. The upshot is that she had a good and cantankerous lawyer.
     
  10. Jun 5, 2014 #290 of 578
    Stewart Vernon

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    Also... even the best-designed test is only an indicator if you miss something.

    IF you take a test and score 100, you don't know what your knowledge level is... you just knew the questions on that test... but if you score an 80, then you at least have "learned" there were a few areas that you didn't know well and you have a place to focus on improving.
     
  11. Jun 5, 2014 #291 of 578
    Laxguy

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    Quite right... Unless the questions are stupid, such as asking what the fine for an XYZ transgression is.
     
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    Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah... stupid questions don't really tell anything of value about the test-taker... though they might tell something about the test-designer :)
     
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  13. Jun 6, 2014 #293 of 578
    Rich

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    Profiling is a big thing in this area. For years good people have been fighting against this. DWB is kinda risky. Even SWB gets a lot of good people into places they don't want to be.

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    You wouldn't believe how long it takes to make a test that "might" stand up in court. I used to get ~ $500 a test from a local college. When I was working I had to make tests for craftsmen that would allow them to reach a higher pay grade if they passed. Didn't like that. The guys were too old to be taking written tests, hadn't had any schooling in years and we would have been better off using the hands on tests. We all knew who were the better craftsman, we could have just met in committee and given them the upgrade, but that would have caused all kinds of problems with our union. Knowing the nitwits that would have made up the hypothetical committee it would have become a popularity contest rather than a strict review of their skills.

    A simple question like: "What temperature does water boil at?" would be a perfect example of a question that could be picked apart by a good lawyer. Just like, "what is the speed of sound?". Seem like harmless, simple questions, but they are both ambiguous for obvious reasons.

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    I always threw in a couple really dumb questions in each test.

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  16. Jun 6, 2014 #296 of 578
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    I cant imagine one that doesn't somewhere in the way it's written. It should be in effect on every multi-lane highway. Even more than anything else....and probably the biggest part of it...IT'S COMMON SENSE.....I have absolutely zero problem with people driving in the left lanes, but if faster moving traffic comes up behind, regardless of your speed or their speed, you move over and let them pass.
     
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  17. Jun 6, 2014 #297 of 578
    billsharpe

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    I agree. I like to drive at 70 mph, the posted speed limit on most of the route, in the left lane on I5 heading north in California because the road is a lot smoother in that lane. I do keep an eye on my rear-view mirror so that I can move over if someone wants to pass. California has a 55 mph speed limit for trucks. Most trucks go faster than that but not 70 mph.
     
  18. Jun 6, 2014 #298 of 578
    Laxguy

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    100º! Or 212º...depending on C or F.

    But the first question would fail in an English class! :)
     
  19. Jun 6, 2014 #299 of 578
    Laxguy

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    I drove on an Interstate in San Diego very early one morning, and every car was in the third over from the right; the second lane was empty. ( and there was at least one more lane to the left.) I guess it was because the lane was smoother, or they didn't want to pass by the semis that filled the right lane.

    Here, on 80 and 505 mostly, the real idiots will dive to the right lane even when the left most lane is open. As often as not, you'll see them again in the rear view mirror, as they've been slowed way down by the very traffic that should be in the right lane. These people are the ones that cause problems and accidents especially for merging traffic.
     
  20. Jun 6, 2014 #300 of 578
    Rich

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    I can understand the reasoning behind that, but I'd think it would clog up our roads. I've never driven in CA, of course, so I'm not sure how that works out. It is interesting. Our Garden State Raceway, oops, Parkway, doesn't allow trucks except for the southernmost part. I like that.

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