States cracking down on Left Lane Slowpokes

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Herdfan, May 1, 2014.

  1. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    34,703
    1,640
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Then you'll remember how many circles we had in Jersey. Eliminating most of them made the traffic conditions better.

    BTW, remember the battery installation problem you were mocked about? I just bought an oximeter and when I went to put the batteries in I had my glasses on and just put the battery's negative ends against the two springs at one end of the battery chamber. Didn't work. Figured the crappy batteries were dead and put in new Duracells. Still didn't work. Took my glasses off and read the hard to see engraved in plastic indicators for battery placement. One battery went in the normal way, with the negative end on the spring. The other battery had to go in with the positive side on the spring. First time I've ever seen that configuration.

    Rich
     
  2. oldengineer

    oldengineer Godfather

    455
    5
    May 25, 2008
    I was in a funeral caravan in Livingston last year and encountered an old traffic circle when crossing NJ Rt 10. It still had the center island but had traffic lights controlling traffic. I almost got hit by a motorist because the light turned red while I was entering ths circle but was in the middle of an obvious procession and the director told us that drivers would respect our line as long as we were closely grouped with flashers and headlights on. Most of them did but it only takes 1 moron.
     
  3. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    34,703
    1,640
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Those are "entitled" morons. I've never been in a funeral procession where none arrived to screw up the works.

    Rich
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,626
    392
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Regarding funeral processions...

    With all the daytime running lamps on cars these days, how do you tell the difference between a funeral procession and a bunch of cars with their lights on? I'm being serious... unless you see the hearse, if it is a long line of cars... how do you know? I remember it used to be way more obvious than it is now.
     
  5. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    49,683
    1,834
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    Flashing hazard lights ... and around here they put magnetic funeral flags on the cars in the procession.

    I have not had any problems in a procession - but the recent ones I've been in have been family so I've been close to the hearse. Not close enough to be in the "family car" fortunately.
     
  6. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    9,488
    248
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    I have come to the conclusion our moron population is on the rise.
     
  7. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    34,703
    1,640
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Most definitely. As the population rises the percentage of morons remains about the same. Leaving us with more of them.

    Rich
     
  8. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    34,703
    1,640
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Yeah, they do ask us to put our flashers on, now that you mention it. I don't think I've ever breached a line as long as the flashers were on. Took them long enough to figure that out when you think about it.

    Rich
     
  9. tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    2,413
    70
    Apr 28, 2005
    East...
    Yes they used to be called "suicide lanes" around where I grew up, just that nickname alone pretty much tells you why they don't make roads like that any more.
     
  10. tsmacro

    tsmacro Hall Of Fame

    2,413
    70
    Apr 28, 2005
    East...
  11. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    21,626
    392
    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    I still say there are holes in this policy in those states that are enforcing it as such... IF the notion of "don't be in the left lane except for passing" is applied, then there should almost never be anyone in the left lane. Regardless of your speed, if the lane is meant for passing only... then you should never be in it except when passing... and as such, it would be hard to have a violation unless two cars were both in the left lane and neither was passing... which makes both of them at fault.

    In North Carolina, the law just applies to driving the minimum posted speed (if one is posted) or generally speaking driving at the speed limit while in the left lane... which to me seems to be the way the law should be... otherwise the speed limit means nothing if you are expected to drive faster when in the left lane. IF they didn't have a speed limit, then I would agree to always have slower traffic in the right lane because it would make sense... but we have speed limits which are supposed to apply to everyone. If they don't apply to everyone, then what's the point?
     
  12. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    34,703
    1,640
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Oh yes they do. They're popping up in NJ again as are the dreadful circles that we were supposed to get rid of years ago. We never learn.

    Rich
     
  13. Herdfan

    Herdfan Well-Known Member

    6,527
    102
    Mar 18, 2006
    Teays...
    TS,

    Awesome article and great graphic. Seems that in all but 4 states ( and Alaska really shouldn't count) the speed limit is irrelevant. It does explain why Ohio drivers come over here and clog the lanes though. :D.

    I would like to see a study done where enforcement priorities were reversed. For example take a high accident prone stretch of highway where if 19 out of 20 tickets were written for speeding and 1 of 20 for driving slowly in the left lane and reverse it to 19 of 20 tickets were written for clogging the left lane and 1 of 20 for speeding (there will always be a few that are really driving way to fast) and track the number of accidents over a period of time. I would love to see the results from such a study.

    And for the record, most of my beef with OH drivers is from having them on the WV Turnpike (also known as I-77 from Charleston to Bluefield). This is a very curvy section of highway probably unlike any interstate in the country. So the flatlanders from OH and MI and such use it heading south and for the most part are way over their skis. They get scared because the locals who drive it every day can drive it at 70+ but the flatlanders are afraid of it. They drive 50-60 and are afraid to pass another vehicle. So instead of just passing, they will drive right beside a semi though multiple curves. The semi drivers will finally get tired of this and give them a trucker's handshake (If anyone is unfamiliar with this term, it is when a semi will ease over toward you and then move away quickly. It makes their trailer move back and forth quickly, but away from the car beside it, but to the driver in the car, it looks like a trailer whipping about so they finally get away). The only saving grace is the EZ-Pass system that allows the locals to breeze though the toll booths and spreads out a group clogging up the lanes. But I have seriously seen to cars drive side by side for miles on this road because each is too afraid to do anything else.
     
  14. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    49,683
    1,834
    Apr 17, 2003
    Michiana
    The graphic was taken from a site already linked in this thread. :)


    I believe the people causing the problem should be given the ticket ... no quota or push to make sure 95% of the tickets go to "left lane hoggers" more than the speeders they are allegedly blocking. Look at traffic flow for more than a split second and see if the problem is coming from someone who is using the left lane when the right lane is clear or someone who is driving faster than the traffic flow.

    If everyone is driving the same speed there is no passing ... so looking at the people causing the difference in speed (usually speeders) is appropriate.
     
  15. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    34,703
    1,640
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Lots of fear here in NJ, too. We don't get bothered by the cops very much as long as don't drive like maniacs. I haven't seen a radar trap in a long time. Our big roads are so crowded the left lane thing is moot most of the time. As long as the traffic flows, nobody is bothered. I only go 70 on 65 MPH roads and I have to stay away from the left lane except to pass. The GSP flows at around 80 MPH or so it seems. But put someone from, say, western PA on our roads and they're overwhelmed by the traffic and the speeds we drive at. I've gone thru this with my in laws from western PA.

    Rich
     
  16. billsharpe

    billsharpe Hall Of Fame

    3,029
    127
    Jan 25, 2007
    Southern...
    I was overwhelmed driving a rented Volkswagen Beetle in 1959 on a California freeway when I was on a business trip to LA from my home in Connecticut. The CA speed limit then was "reasonable and proper." I was in the #2 lane on a 4-lane freeway in downtown LA and got passed right and left even though I was doing 65 at the time.
     
  17. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    24,632
    1,444
    Nov 13, 2006
    We don't drive slow around here. ;).

    But have you ever driven in Salt Lake City? My goodness...
     
  18. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,541
    617
    Dec 2, 2010
    Monterey...
    Nothing's changed, then!

    Folks in CA all too often speed in the right lanes.
     
  19. MysteryMan

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    10,232
    1,246
    May 17, 2010
    USA
    It's everywhere Lax. Last month my wife and I traveled through New York on I-90 to visit relatives. The speed limit is 65 mph. Yet the average speed by motorist using the right lane was 72 mph and much faster in the left lane. People are never satisfied with speed limits.
     
  20. Herdfan

    Herdfan Well-Known Member

    6,527
    102
    Mar 18, 2006
    Teays...
    Because they are usually arbitrarily set with no basis on how traffic moves. They "should" be set based on the speed the 85th percentile travels. Most are set too low.
     
    1 person likes this.

Share This Page

spam firewall