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Status of MSG HD?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by wilbur_the_goose, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. Oct 14, 2009 #721 of 1758
    marlen

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    Looks like we need to ramp up the calls to Gary Buttman. What is the schedule for the NHL call in show that he's on regularly?
     
  2. Oct 14, 2009 #722 of 1758
    Buster1022

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    I currently have cable, and this is the screen showing MSG HD will not be used tonight.
     

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  3. Oct 14, 2009 #723 of 1758
    c_perrone

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    Thanks Buster. That pretty much sums it up...

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  4. Oct 14, 2009 #724 of 1758
    RACJ2

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    After getting the answer I did from Cablevision's corporate office, I'm not surprised that the MSG HD feed was a misprint on the InDemand schedule. Looks like their providing the FS-W LA feed.
     
  5. Oct 14, 2009 #725 of 1758
    lokar

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    Does anyone know if there will be more Canadian HD feeds this season, I might consider re-subscribing if we would know this for sure.
     
  6. Oct 14, 2009 #726 of 1758
    c_perrone

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    There is one other game listed this month on the InDemand schedule for the 26th with MSG HD listed which is also probably a misprint.

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  7. Oct 14, 2009 #727 of 1758
    RACJ2

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    If you look at the current NHL CI listing on the D* websites, it doesn't look promising. What some have speculated is that we might get Sportsnet HD feeds, when a Canadian team plays one of the teams who have MSG for their RSN.
     
  8. Oct 14, 2009 #728 of 1758
    lokar

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    In case anyone is wondering the percentages of what kind of impact this issue has on fans of MSG teams, here is a breakdown I just did for the Devils (77 games remaining), presumably the Rangers/Sabres/Islanders schedule breakdowns are similar:

    Games on MSG HD where there is no opposing team feed in HD: 43
    Opposing team HD feed available: 21
    Devils on MSG2 + where there is no opposing team feed in HD: 6
    NHL Network appearances: 2
    Versus appearances: 5

    43/77 = 56% of the remaining games not in HD because of this MSG HD problem.
     
  9. Oct 14, 2009 #729 of 1758
    scoop8

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    Lokar,

    Interesting #"s, thanks for doing the "crunching" on it.

    Without doing the research, I'd have guessed that there would have been a lot more MSG "other team's" HD feeds available from my memory of last year. Goes to show I can't trust memory :D At least, the # of Vs appearances aren't too high for me.

    From reading that Vs thread, I didn't know that Vs had any "exclusivity time window" at all, aka FOX's Sat MLB time window blackouts. I guess I didn't notice it last year. I've started to view other things on Vs nights with a small choice of CI games on those nights.

    When the MSG HD feeds were pulled last year, I got used to the SD feeds and for me, most were "acceptable". Don't get me wrong, I hate the present situation with the missing HD feeds. I guess I haven't tried to "sync" the audio with my same-room Sd D11 box yet. Anyway, I prefer the MSG guy's game-calling on the feeds. The only SD feed, so far for me, that was really bad was that Devils/Flyers game last week from MSG2+, if I recall.

    I'm viewing my DTV on a 50" Panny Plasma about 8-9 ft away from the screen. The SD NHL games are....ok but they are all over the place as far as picture Q consistancy. If we had more consistant SD pictures between feeds, that would help ease the "no HD pain" for me. If I'd have thought ahead, I'd have kept that Sony Wega 36" CRT TV :rolleyes:
     
  10. Oct 14, 2009 #730 of 1758
    ohpuckhead

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    "Technical Difficulties" on Kings HD broadcast from the Garden. Hanky panky from MSG network?
     
  11. Oct 14, 2009 #731 of 1758
    TheRatPatrol

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    Yet the HD feeds are in NBALP. Another reason that NHL isn't run so well.
     
  12. Oct 15, 2009 #732 of 1758
    BuffaloDenny

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    Yep, that's bad news all around. Sounds like MSG HD is dead for this season.

    Out of curiosity, was CI illegally broadcasting the MSG HD games last season, and the season before that, before they were pullled? Was it the website spat that caused them to shine a light on this issue, and strictly enforce the contract, whereas they otherwise might have let it slide?
     
  13. Oct 15, 2009 #733 of 1758
    dhkinil

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    They were on legally, and the week before they started in 07-08 Sat Racer had a post announcing it, saying they wanted to wait a few extra days to make sure they had every technical detail ironed out.

    And FWIW, I have two DVR's hooked to my tv and it is really a no brainer to sync them to listen to MSG feed and watch the other in HD. You get the bonus of missing the ads on the glass although I watched the end of the Hawks last night and they now have them as well. They use a better system in Europe with soccer, they put the ads on the field. less distracting
     
  14. Oct 15, 2009 #734 of 1758
    RACJ2

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    I read that D* had interpreted that they legally could carry MSG HD in NHLCI and then MSG made them remove it.

    The two DVR setup works fine, except when both teams games are carried on MSG (ex. Sabres/Devils). Also, when an MSG team plays a Canadian team. Although there was 1 SNET-O HD game broadcast on NHLCI, which gives us hope.
     
  15. Oct 15, 2009 #735 of 1758
    islesfan

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    Funny, that's basically what I said before the season started and some Dolan lover jumped all over it (I think it was a person that doesn't have NHLCI anyway, so it didn't really matter, but the point is made).
     
  16. Oct 15, 2009 #736 of 1758
    RACJ2

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    Well, I emailed Mike Gilbert and did receive a reply back asking me to call him. Unfortunately, he was told it was a technical issue and he wasn't a tech savvy person, so he did his best to explain. To make a long story short, his source didn't give him very good info.

    Long version: He said the MSG SD signal was available to all providers, but the MSG HD feed is sent from the HSBC arena directly to Time Warner. He also mentioned that D* put in some equipment, so they could get the signal for the local Buffalo & Rochester markets.

    I explained that they had the MSG HD feeds for NHLCI on D* last year that were taken off around the All Star break. So technically, everything was in place to provide this. Not to mention, there were no other MSG HD feeds for the NYC area teams. And then I told him what MSG and Cablevision had told me about reaching an agreement. He was unaware of this, so in the end I didn't really get any traction with getting the Sabres to put pressure on the NHL to reach an agreement.

     
  17. Oct 15, 2009 #737 of 1758
    wilbur_the_goose

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    Just sent him a note:
    Dear Mr. Gilbert,
    I wanted to make you aware of an issue that's preventing this Philly-based Sabres fan from enjoying the games this year.

    Last year, after the All-Star break, Madison Square Garden network decided to prevent NHL Center Ice from telecasting Sabres games in High Definition. Last year, it was due to a NHL/Rangers dispute over the NY Rangers' website. This year, it's another NHL/NY Rangers dispute.

    The technology is in place and it works wonderfully, but Cablevision/MSG are preventing all Center Ice subscribers from getting Sabres games in HD.

    We occasionally get the visitor's feed. Last one I saw was when Phoenix visited Buffalo. But that's not what I want. I want the world-class broadcasting that the Sabres have provided since I was a kid in Tonawanda (I've been watching the Sabres since 1970!)

    Can you do anything to help resolve this situation? It's such a shame that a dispute between the Rangers and the NHL is hurting Sabres fans.
     
  18. Oct 15, 2009 #738 of 1758
    DCSholtis

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    Another reason and this is mildly OT but at least with the NBALP the broadband package is included with the TV package for free, unlike the NHL and MLB packages where they are separate purchases. Now that is how to truly treat your fans.
     
  19. Oct 15, 2009 #739 of 1758
    dhkinil

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    yes, it does not work if the Rangers are playing the Devils, as an example, but the syncing works out well, I heard the ping and saw Boyle's shot go off the pipe simultaneously and as i am now getting good at it, I am rarely off by even a second.
     
  20. Oct 15, 2009 #740 of 1758
    wallybarthman

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    That was my understanding as well based on a conversation I had with someone from the NHL. D* used the "HD Access" part of their customer agreement to say that since they had the content available in HD that they could make it available as part of NHLCI. MSG disagreed.
     

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