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STELA Press Release: 29 new markets on June 3

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Jason Nipp, May 27, 2010.

  1. Paul E Fox II

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    Question for my Dad who has Dish Network but would probably not call...

    As we're in the Bluefield/Beckley DMA and apparently now set to have access to Dish Locals on June 3, what would I need to tell him/them they would need to do to gain access to the newly available channels?

    They have (I believe) a Dish 500, I think their programming is the top package with everything and I know they have one two-tuner DVR and a single-tuner DVR in my brothers room. Neither are HD though they do have HD capable sets now.

    Any tips for me as I'm probably gonna be the guy that has to make the call? I don't have a clue what to ask for or what I should expect as I have the *other* satellite provider myself though I'm not really biased either way.

    Thanks for any help you all may be able/willing to offer.
     
  2. adunkle

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    I am still unsure if this new law applies to me. According to the FCC sv list, in Miami county, IN, WNDU-tv in South Bend is significantly viewed. I live in the Indy tv market so I don't get WNDU. I am correct in assuming that after June 3rd I will have that station?
     
  3. runner861

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    Dish has applied for a temporary waiver of the injunction barring them from providing distant networks. The application was filed on May 28. The waiver they are seeking is a 120-day waiver. This is a limited waiver that Dish is seeking. If granted, it would allow Dish to provide distants to short markets in which Dish was not providing local service as of December 31, 2009.

    Judge Dimitrouleas has ordered that any interested parties file their papers by noon on June 3. As of now, the injunction still stands.
     
  4. James Long

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    Theoretically ... DISH could provide you with WNDU as a SV channel as of last Thursday when the bill became a law. But you have an NBC station in your market so the pressure to fill in the network isn't there.

    DISH has not mapped "duplicate" network stations into markets. While it is legally possible to provide the stations I do not expect them to do so. (In this case WTHR would object and likely want a rate increase the next time their contract is up.)
     
  5. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Thanks for the update.

    This is important enough and discussion will outlast this thread ... so I've created a special thread to discuss this legal issue.
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=178471
     
  6. HobbyTalk

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    Or maybe it would give Dish negotiating power when the contract is up since they have an alternative channel available? Hummmm.... if you don't lower rates we will offer the SV channel and you'll lose viewers :)

    Do the local channels do this with the cable companies?
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    WTXL is only "Significantly Viewed" in ONE county in the Albany, GA DMA (Colquitt County)... even though their digital signal now reaches farther into the Albany, GA DMA than WTVM (Columbus, GA) which is "Significantly Viewed" in 8 of the 17 counties including Dougherty County (where Albany is).

    Perhaps it has to do with WTXL already uplinked as SD-LIL to the Tallahassee, FL DMA, whereas WTVM will only be uplinked in MPEG4 HD to Columbus, GA... and they are only waiting until they get the legal right to import WTXL into the rest of the DMA...

    JAMES LONG: BTW, WLGA in Columbus, GA is no longer a CW affiliate... like you have listed on your site. They lost their affiliation to WLTZ-DT2, and are now currently an Independent... and from what I hear, they'll be lucky to be anything much longer. :(

    ~Alan
     
  8. Chris24

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    When the Nets go up CBS,ABC,NBC,Fox does that included the CW Network & My Network.If it does not can you get CW & My from another city?
     
  9. Jon Ellis

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    For CW, DISH typically includes either WPIX New York or KTLA Los Angeles in markets that don't have a standalone affiliate (they don't carry the CW subchannels).

    My Network TV affiliates aren't included in any DISH local packages, to my knowledge, but you could always get WWOR New York for an extra fee, since it is a SuperStation.
     
  10. Chris24

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    Could it be possible that that new cities with locals that some of them could get turned on Tomorrow?
     
  11. James Long

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    Anything is possible ... but I doubt the CSRs would be able to turn on the channels until Thursday even if they are "available".
    (They might have trouble turning them on Friday the way some market adds have gone. :rolleyes:)
     
  12. John79605

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    Here in Abilene, Texas our MNTV affiliate channel 42 is on Dish. Our CW is a subchannel of the ABC affiliate so for that we get WPIX. We have no local PBS so we get the national feed.
     
  13. adunkle

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    Thank you James for the reply. I probably should have mentioned that only Miami county had WNDU as sv in my area. You are probably right. WTHR would probably raise a fuss. I appreciate your response.
     
  14. BlueSnake

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    They will basically need the setup to receive HD channels. The new locals are on a different satellite than your Dad's setup currently are aimed at. My daughter lives up there and she has the same thing. She going to switch to get HD and then she will be able to receive her local channels as well.
     
  15. James Long

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    The new markets are now active on the satellites ... be aware that if you call they may not be in the CSR's system yet to be added.
     
  16. jeffgbailey

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    not available until tomorrow at 6AM Eastern ;)
     
  17. James Long

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    That's the difference between "available" on the satellite and "available" to subscribe. :D
     
  18. psdstu

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    James,

    Do you know if ANY of these Short Market stations have been available yet?

    Stu
     
  19. James Long

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    I don't believe so. I don't expect any of them to be available soon as the ones I've looked at are distants (not significantly viewed) and DISH is still prohibited from delivering distants into markets that had local-into-local service on December 31st, 2009.
     
  20. psdstu

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    I can't speak for all of them, but I do know that these 2 are SV and based on the attachment is what made me belive that they would be available on 3 June.

    Dothan, AL
    7-00 WJHG PANAMA CITY, FL (NBC) SV - 8567 SD 110° 4s7 X

    Panama City, FL
    4-00 WTVY DOTHAN, AL (CBS) SV - 7920 SD 110° 4s7 X
     

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