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Still need a phone line?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Warhammer, Aug 15, 2007.

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  1. Hdhead

    Hdhead Hall Of Fame

    Jul 30, 2007
    Have 7 recievers, none of them connected to a phone line for years. No problem.
  2. jganson

    jganson New Member

    Jan 30, 2007
    The only reason I had one connected to my HR10-250 was to avoid the nag screen that would eventually start popping up every day. Will that not happen on the HR20?

    I like the CID on the HR20. However, we have two, one in a "mother-in-law" room that has its own phone number. If possible, I'd like to hook that HR20 to that room's phone line rather than having it plugged into the other line as I currently do. My only concern is, will D* somehow see that there are two different phone numbers attached to receivers on this account, and claim they aren't at the same address? I'd thought that was one way D* enforced that rule, and a major reason they required that a phone line be attached.
  3. techrep

    techrep Hall Of Fame

    Sep 15, 2007
    I don't think you get the nag screen on the HR20 but I am not certain. The HR20 does not require a phone number input during initial setup so I don't think it matters about the line. If it did matter, caller ID can be blocked or turned off. If you still are concerned about phone number ID, put a splitter (one that has inputs for line1 and line2) in the phone jack of that room and connect the HR20 to the desired input of the splitter. :)
  4. ChrisQ

    ChrisQ AllStar

    Sep 7, 2007
    I have had D* for 6 years, never had a landline from day 1, and all my receivers have always worked fine and the DVR works fine as well. We have always orderd PPV online if we want it.
  5. Dr. Booda

    Dr. Booda Godfather

    Jun 18, 2007
    D* wants to have a phone line connected to confirm the location of the receiver based upon your phone number. It is one way of checking that content is not being pirated to a neighboring address.

    If have never had my HR20's connected to a land line and I never will.
  6. mherms

    mherms New Member

    Oct 3, 2007
    What about sports packages and blackout restrictions? In the past, DirecTV said the phone line was required to verify the location of the receiver for blackout compliance.

    My HDR20 modem went bad yesterday in the same manner as the other poster: in a half-open mode. When I connect my receiver to the wall jack my line level goes way down. If I'm talking on the phone the volume goes down and I can here static on the line. If I leave the receiver connected and hang up, eventually service is interrupted until I disconnect the HDR20 from the wall jack. The wall jack is fine. I tested that with another phone and it doesn't exhibit the behavior of the HDR20.

    I'll wait on the replacement as long as my sports packages don't get interrupted.

  7. Tetonmtnbiker

    Tetonmtnbiker New Member

    Mar 12, 2007
    I have had superfan and sunday ticket for two years and have never had a phone line hooked up, and I have had no problems. I am not sure about regional networks, but I will venture a guess that blackouts are based on where your reciever is registeredand coded in D**'s system rather than by an area code phone connection.
  8. rutgersfan

    rutgersfan AllStar

    Dec 17, 2006
    I've never had my phone line connected for 8 years. right now I don't even have a phone!

    the HD tivo needed a phone line to activate HD, and it worked much faster with the phone line. Once you disconnect the phone, it takes forever to delete stuff and add recordings, etc.
  9. Warhammer

    Warhammer Mentor

    Jul 30, 2007

    How do you force an update with an HR-20 without a phone line?
  10. Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    The HR20 does not need a phone line. All updates are done via the SAT's only.

    Your unit should have updated the newest software by itself after running for a few minutes. It will reset itself and download the new software.

    Any time there is a update DirecTV will force the unit to download the software. That normally will happen in the middle of the night.

    But to force a download for CE's you need to do a menu restart recorder. When the blue welcome DirecTV screens comes up press 02468. A few seconds later you will get a screen that says found new software and it will start downloading.
  11. Warhammer

    Warhammer Mentor

    Jul 30, 2007
    I tried a reset, but the unit is not doing any update. It still shows the update from August. The only reason I want it is I saw all the talk about the new update with the on-demand stuff.
  12. braven

    braven Hall Of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    As many have said. Land line isn't mandatory. Just be happy D* doesn't charge a fee per receiver not connected like that other satellite company. I'd be looking at an extra $20/mth if they did.
  13. Interceptor

    Interceptor Legend

    Jul 19, 2007
    The CE updates only happen on weekends, late at night. Go here for more info: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=90847
  14. jtn

    jtn Banned User

    Oct 18, 2007
    Most people are using cellular since it is less money and wireless. To punish the customer for making a good economic decision is silly. DirecTV would probably get more churn if they penalized the customer for not having a wired line.
  15. SeattleSteve

    SeattleSteve Cool Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    The software update this week is for the HR20-700 only. If you have an HR20-100 you won't get a new update. If you force an update it will just download and reinstall the same version.
  16. joe diamond

    joe diamond Hall Of Fame

    Feb 28, 2007
    ONE of the added benefits of having the phone line connected = Lightning strikes that hit the telco equipment will find your phones AND your DTV equipment if the phone line is connected.
    AND another that I expect will happen. If you have a wire protection plan with the phone company and they roll a tech (like me) and discover the problem is with the DTV rig and not the lines they service...they my ding you for an unnecessary (uncovered) service call.
    CID is cool.
    If you order the PPV with a remote it generates a PPV event on one TV / IRD but if you use the internet, the event plays on all receivers. If you call them it costs...$5.00?

  17. Warhammer

    Warhammer Mentor

    Jul 30, 2007
    I have the HR20-700. I got it to download the software, but it did not update it. Although the earlier post said it would not do any update until the weekend.
  18. fredandbetty

    fredandbetty Godfather

    Jan 28, 2007

    That is true, you do not get the nag screen on the HR20. now if i could just get rid of that on my Hughes tivo...i'd be just fine....but as lots of others have said, i think i would rather keep it till it dies on me! :D :D
  19. BBM3

    BBM3 Mentor

    Oct 26, 2007
    The main reason to connect a DVR to the phone line is so you can “share” your viewing habits with D*, their advertisers, etc.
    This is a revenue stream for them.
    Your contract requires you to keep your DVR plugged into a phone line however in the fine print of the contact there is an option to opt out of some of their personal data collection if you follow a series of steps.
  20. BBM3

    BBM3 Mentor

    Oct 26, 2007
    I don't want to break any rules here, just know it is possible to get rid of the nag messages on your HR10-250 with a Google search and a little work.
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