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Superstations going away Sept19th- get grandfathered now

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by scottchez, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. Sep 12, 2013 #41 of 213
    KyL416

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    Comparing TV to Radio is apples to oranges. For one thing most of the content is either locally produced live or voice tracked and packaged in a way that's unique to each station. (i.e. shows like On Air with Ryan Seacrest contain the same segments, but they usually air in a custom order and the music that plays around them is different for each station)

    When it comes to syndicated content like Rush, Imus, Hannity, etc the stations have to pay the syndicator extra for online rights, larger broadcasters like Clear Channel and Cumulus do afford it, but the smaller broadcasters usually black out the programming. Towards the end of his FM run, almost no one streamed Howard Stern online. Throw in sports, most of that gets blacked out too outside of the NHL and select NBA and NFL games.
     
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    Lots of local news tonight on the Supers. Colorado Floods and NJ boardwalk fire.
    Order while you can . . .
     
  4. Sep 13, 2013 #44 of 213
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    I canceled my Supers when I upgraded to the Hopper in a cost cutting move as my monthly fees increased dramatically. They had become pretty irrelavent being SD only and the fact that DISH now carries our local CW in HD which is a close mirror of WPIX other than the NY local news which I rarely watched anyway. Even so I do not understand why DISH would stop offfering them to new subs. If they are letting others keep them they do not save TP space.
     
  5. Sep 13, 2013 #45 of 213
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    Same thing here. When I went HD there was only one or two shows on the Supers that I was interested in and I had other ways of getting them. Now we have all the locals in HD (and those shows have since been cancelled) so it was a way to save a few dollars. Now I'm looking at where I can save money again since my bill has crept up to $145 (2 Hoppers, 3 Joeys, AT250, HBO/Starz)
     
  6. Sep 13, 2013 #46 of 213
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    I can't!
     
  7. Sep 13, 2013 #47 of 213
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    That's not how it works. All but one or two are there for the locals anyway, just because they are in another package does not make them take up more space/bandwidth. That one or two are on both ARC's when they might not otherwise be, but we are talking SD, tiny bandwidth. This change has nothing to do with bandwidth space.
     
  8. Sep 13, 2013 #48 of 213
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    We also were watching last night on the Supers.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2013 #49 of 213
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    As far bandwidth goes, I would think it would save space by moving them to Spotbeams only instead of on ConUS. Not sure how much space it would save.
     
  10. Sep 14, 2013 #50 of 213
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    Not much. 5 channels of SD? DISH is not hurting for SD space. There are five NYC channels (other than WWOR) that are still ConUS. (I believe the rest of the locals on 110/119 are now all spotbeamed.)

    Completely clearing a SD transponder so it can be used for HD would not be a bad thing.
     
  11. Sep 14, 2013 #51 of 213
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    I'm guessing 4 of those 5 are the ones that AAD is using? Thus the need for them to be on ConUS?
     
  12. Sep 14, 2013 #52 of 213
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    AAD has their own feeds on 119 TP 15. The story goes they lease the entire transponder.

    Somehow DISH has a few channels on that transponder now. :)
    (Perhaps AAD now only leases part of the transponder?)
     
  13. Sep 18, 2013 #53 of 213
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    Last chance to even sign up for the super stations.
     
  14. Sep 19, 2013 #54 of 213
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    I have mine.
     
  15. Sep 19, 2013 #55 of 213
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    SUPERSTATIONS Congratulations! This address is eligible for all Superstations.
    Superstations - $2.00 per month**
    Station Affiliate DISH Network Channel Number
    Superstation KTLA WB 918
    Superstation KWGN WB 235
    Superstation WPIX WB 916
    Superstation WSBK UPN 236
    Superstation WWOR UPN 8105


    I think it's kinda funny that the channel numbers have been updated here but after 7 years they still list WB and UPN.


    On my receiver the numbers are like this.

    KTLA 233
    WPIX 234
    KWGN 235
    WSBK 236
    WWOR 238
     
  16. Sep 19, 2013 #56 of 213
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    Is it me, or is the PQ of the superstations pretty lousy? I checked them out at a local Blockbuster where they had a monitor wired to Dish programming. In comparison to almost every other channel, the picture on the supers was bloody awful, fuzzy, smeary. I mean, change the prescription on the glasses bad.

    And really, will Dish continue to indefinitely carry them at all, given that no new subs are allowed?
     
  17. Sep 19, 2013 #57 of 213
    James Long

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    Indefinite is not infinite. They will go away eventually. I suppose DISH could have just dropped them cold but they seem to be easing them out the door.
     
  18. Sep 19, 2013 #58 of 213
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    Years ago, I used to watch WNGS (Buffalo NY) through a FTA dish. All the FTA enthusiasts agreed that WNGS's transponder was horribly overloaded, carrying about 14 channels in a space designed for 10 or less, roughly speaking. WNGS used to show a few Yankees games using WWOR's feed, with the WNGS logo sitting next to the My9 logo.

    Once during a game, I switched between inputs on my TV. The allegedly overcompressed, second-hand feed from WNGS was noticeably more colorful and crisp than what Dish served me directly from WWOR.

    Having said all that, after I resubscribed to the Supers a few weeks ago, I braced myself for some serious ugly, but I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't as bad as I remembered. Still, when Dish delivers them, they'll always be in SD, and the PQ is never going to win awards. I think we're fortunate to have them at all.

    EDIT PS: As predicted, the Superstations are no longer on Dish's a la carte programming tab.
     
  19. Sep 19, 2013 #59 of 213
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    All the superstations on my receiver look fine on my DISH Hopper and my HDTV.
     
  20. Sep 19, 2013 #60 of 213
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    I still see the superstations being offered on DISH's web page.

    UPDATE: I originally sent the a above reply on Earrrrrrrlyon the morning of September 19th.

    Today I do not see any Superstation offerings. So the story is definatly true.
     

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