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SWM 16 in the works...

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by k2tech, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Sep 9, 2009 #101 of 145
    HRJustin

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    yea thats good I just worded it wrong i suppose. Each channel SWM feeds a tuner and each legacy port feeds a tuner. That was the way I was thinking I just typed tuners rather then ports lol. Two swm16s that would be perfect for your setup. That would give you enough with plenty to spare. :grin::lol:;)
     
  2. Sep 9, 2009 #102 of 145
    Groundhog45

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    Wow, this is going to be great. So much better than using 4 splitters and two SWM8s or a SWM8 and a WB68. I hope we see these soon.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2009 #103 of 145
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    The thing is as Tom remarked earlier is the title of "legacy" for the ports still appropriate since they all are full bandwidth with each passing the particular triple 500 mhz Ka/Ku frequency blocks for that port.
     
  4. Sep 9, 2009 #104 of 145
    inkahauts

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    Um, I see no reason why you can;t cascade many of these together.. Like the old WB616, which would allow you to cascade till you had 164 outputs or something like that... I have a feeling this is the same...
     
  5. Sep 9, 2009 #105 of 145
    HoTat2

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    Or the need for an expensive SWM port expander like the $100.00+ SWM-E2
     
  6. Sep 9, 2009 #106 of 145
    HoTat2

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    From the diagram though the cascade approach seems to be sort of like with dish network's trunking method used for cascading their multiswitches, where the inputs to the first SWM switch are fully passed through to the output "legacy" ports for supplying additional SWM-16s. Thus the individual SWM modules are all fully in parallel with the 4-6 lines from the dish antenna(s).
     
  7. Sep 9, 2009 #107 of 145
    cartrivision

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    I wouldn't really say that we were all wrong. That is almost exactly what I and some others were speculating that the SWM16 would be (right down to the DECA bridge).... with the exception that it's external instead of being integrated into the LNB.
     
  8. Sep 9, 2009 #108 of 145
    cartrivision

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    They seem to be more for the purpose of making it possible to cascade multiple SWM16s together, although they could be used to connect legacy equipment too.
     
  9. Sep 9, 2009 #109 of 145
    texasbrit

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    Since the "legacy" and flex output ports on the SWM16 seem to be just passthroughs of the six input ports from the dish(es), you could even cascade to a WB68 if you wanted. It's a very flexible approach!
     
  10. Sep 9, 2009 #110 of 145
    Groundhog45

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    Couldn't you also put a BBC on one of the legacy lines and connect an H2X receiver and have an HD signal? Seems like this would work here. Or is there a problem with LNB switching?
     
  11. Sep 9, 2009 #111 of 145
    Tom Robertson

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    Should work fine. :)
     
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    Sign me up. :D
     
  13. Sep 9, 2009 #113 of 145
    dishrich

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    I'm surprised they are STILL supporting the 72.5 port, since ALL of those markets are now ALSO up in MPEG4, & there is NO need for it on new installs or upgrades.
     
  14. Sep 9, 2009 #114 of 145
    HoTat2

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    This also does not have to mean that a SWiMLine-16 LNB is still not coming in the near future. Since this could be simply following the same path where the SWM-8 module appeared first eventually followed by the present SWiMLine-8 LNB.
     
  15. Sep 9, 2009 #115 of 145
    cartrivision

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    I agree. Since I didn't lose my farm when I "bet the farm" that the SWM16 would just be two SWM8s in parallel, I will now bet the farm that we will see a SWM16 LNB sometime next year.
     
  16. Sep 9, 2009 #116 of 145
    Drew2k

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    Interestingly, the internal PDF document title is "Visio-SWim32.vsd".
     
  17. Sep 9, 2009 #117 of 145
    JosephB

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    Well it does detail a 32 tuner setup
     
  18. Sep 9, 2009 #118 of 145
    rudeney

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    Well, I wouldn't put that farm deed away just yet! :) The SWM16 is an all in one unit with KaKu compatible legacy ports. Of course each of its two SWM outputs is a separate system and can only support 8 tuner channels each, but is not "just two SWM8's in parallel". ;)
     
  19. Sep 9, 2009 #119 of 145
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    It is two SWM8s in parallel with a DECA bridge, as opposed to the speculation that they might squeeze 16 SWM channels into one SWM output. That's what I was speculating, and betting on.

    The legacy ports are a nice extra which seem to be intended to facilitate daisy-chaining multiple SWM16s together, and which some people will no doubt will use for hooking up legacy equipment, but that doesn't change the fact that the SWM16 was effectively created by combining two SWM8s which each have the same SWM channel allocation as the current SWM8s, just as I bet (the farm) it would be.
     
  20. Sep 9, 2009 #120 of 145
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    Exactly. I wonder if there is a limit on how many SWM16s can be daisy chained together? It seems that as long as the signals that are passed through on the legacy ports are not degraded, there would be no specific limit, making it usable for MDU applications where a group of apartments or condos could be served using a single dish.
     

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