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SWM & SWMline general discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Aug 9, 2011 #1101 of 1305
    mobilelawyer

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    Oh, boy. Really want to get rid of the cable running down the outside of the house. May just forego getting the OTA downstairs. If I thought it was practical to cable fish through the hole in the brick veneer then running up through the framing and pull a dual cable back up through to replace the existing single cable, I would do that. The physics of it scare me though and seem to inevitably lead to heartbreak:nono2:
     
  2. Aug 9, 2011 #1102 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    Maybe it might help for you to do a drawing of what you have/want to do.
    Not knowing what you have to deal with, pulling two coax can be done by tying them on to the existing coax and using it to pull them through the existing cable run.
    Diplexing isn't the favored method anymore as it limits you to not having the connected home networking now or at a later time.
     
  3. Sep 1, 2011 #1103 of 1305
    skeeter

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    Currently have a Slimline with SWM 8 and power injector.
    Adding one more IRD and that brings the total up to 9.

    Should I install a SWM 16 with a new power injector?
     
  4. Sep 1, 2011 #1104 of 1305
    dishrich

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    OK, we ARE talking about an actual SWM8 switch, correct? (& NOT an SWiM LNB)

    Depends, are you installing an SD or HD IRD???

    If it's ONLY an SD, you could utilize one of the 3 legacy ports on the SWM8 switch. You didn't say if this added IRD was a DVR or not - if it is, you would obviously have to use 2 ports to get both tuners working. Or, if you have any existing SD IRD's, move one to these legacy ports & put the new (HD) IRD on the SWM output.

    If it's HD, then you really have no choice but to go the SWM16 route - at least it's pretty much plug & play - & they both use the same power supply.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2011 #1105 of 1305
    skeeter

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    Currently I have 2 DVR boxes, 1 HD box, 3 standard boxes, a SWM 8 & PRI21R1-03 Power Inserter.

    I would like to instal another standard box but it comes up with need new hardware.

    Will a SWM16 work ok with this power inserter?
     
  6. Sep 2, 2011 #1106 of 1305
    David Ortiz

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    No. A SWiM-16 requires a 29 volt power inserter/supply.
     
  7. solaris3000

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    Hello All,
    A little background on my install.

    My Slimline dish on roof with the SL3-SWM LNB module.
    (single coaxial cable)

    2 rg6 cable drops terminate on the roof. One connected to Master BR and the other leads to Lining room. (not connected at this time)

    Currently I have one HR-23 receiver installed in Master BR with Power Inserter.

    I would like to install a second receiver in Living room. The cable drop runs directly to the roof just like the Master BR install.

    Question" What Kind of splitter? should I use to split the single cable from the 5LNB? to feed both drops.

    Also Will I need to use a second Power inserter for the Living room drop?





    Thanks for your time
    Brian
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    One of these should work fine:http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...0-MHz)&c=Satellite Splitters&sku=874409002404

    Connect the PI to the red port as it's the power passing and you don't need another PI.
     
  9. solaris3000

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    In order to split the SWM cable at the 5LNB Dish. to feed both cable drops into home. Do I need to use a special splitter or just a basic 2-way splitter.
     
  10. veryoldschool

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  11. solaris3000

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    My bad, I meant to say the SWM 2-way splitter in the link.

    So to summarize. I will need three of those SWM splitters.

    One At the Dish and One for each room at wall plate that has a SWM compatible receiver, for a total of three.

    Question I have is, Do I need to Use a power inserter for all Three SWM splitters? Or only at the DVR receiver Location. In my case Master BR and Living room cable drops..

    Power insertion requirements have me a bit confused. I was hoping only one power inserter would be necessary.

    Thanks for the help on this..
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    Not quite sure why you need three, but yes you can connect 2-ways off another 2-way.
    Here's a photo of a 2-way off a 4-way, and how the 1 PI needs to be connected:
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  13. solaris3000

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    Excellent diagram, thanks for the help and pointing me in the right direction. I'm going to proceed with getting this up and running tomorrow..
     
  14. Gary16

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    Sorry if this has been answered before but I haven't been able to find my exact situation.
    I have 7 active HDVR's spread over 6 rooms in my house. Currently 4 are being fed by an SWM and the others from a multiswitch, both fed from my slimline dish into the 4 power splitters.
    I have another SWM available and I would like to replace the multiswitch so that all the receivers are fed via SWM but I'm not sure if I can simply unhook the multiswitch and connect the SWM or if another power inverter or some special hookup is also necessary. Thanks.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    One SWiM-16 would do this, but with having a SWM8 installed and another "spare" on hand, then simply swap the WB68 with a SWM8 and get another PI for it so it has power.
    The SWiM-16 works better if you have the connected home networking, since the DECA is bridged between the two [SWiM] sections and keep everything connected.
     
  16. Gary16

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    Thanks. I'm not planning on any home networking so I will try the second SWM8 for now and see how it goes.
     
  17. Nov 9, 2011 #1117 of 1305
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    While I know we have stated this countless times, from a strictly technical standpoint though, I do wonder if it would be more precise to say that the SWiM-16 includes both a DECA crossover as well as the ability to pass the 2.3 MHz SWiM control signal between its two output legs.

    Since I've read more than once and seen illustrations in various DIRECTV tech. training materials regarding the receiver "callback" option feature for SD receivers when the D12 and R16 receivers are used in a SWiM installation with other networked H/HR2X receivers, and not hooked-up to a local phone line of their own. They try and send any callback information via the 2.3 MHz control signal to another H/HR2X receiver even if placed on the opposite SWiM-16 leg which then relays this data on to the internet through their own network connection.

    Either by HR2X ---> DECA---> CCK ----> Internet or H/HR2X ---> home ethernet ---> internet.

    Just a thought ... :)
     
  18. Nov 9, 2011 #1118 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    I really don't think the 2.3 MHz FSK is shared between sections.
     
  19. Nov 9, 2011 #1119 of 1305
    Gary16

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    Just wanted to follow up that I did what was recommended above (swapping the WB68 with another SWM8) and everything is working beautifully on all 7 HD-DVR's. I have no plans to home network any time soon. Thanks for the help.
     
  20. Nov 9, 2011 #1120 of 1305
    HoTat2

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    Yep, you're right, my bad;

    Don't know what I thought I saw earlier ... :sure:

    From the DIRECTV "Field Operations Training Connected Home Instructor Guide" Addendum B p. 48.
     

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