SWM & SWMline general discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. Billzebub

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    I have a dumb question and I apologize in advance. I have a SWM 16 and the power supply sits in my living room behind my TV. I had new flooring put in today and either the installers or my wife disconnected everything. We have one cable that comes up from the basement. The is a 2 way splitter that attaches to the cable. One end connects to my Genie. The other connects to the PI. There is another cable that connects from the PI to the power supply and cord. Here's my question. The 2 ports on the SWM are marked "IRD" and "power to SWM". Which connects to the power supply and which connects to the splitter?
     
  2. veryoldschool

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    This is the PI and "to SWiM" goes towards "the dish" and "IRD" towards the Genie.
     
  3. Billzebub

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    as always, thank you.
     
  4. Chris72

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    Im a subcontractor which installs commercial Directv.Most of the installations that are installed are SWM.The question I have is, is there a software that needs to be installed on an AIM meter to check the signal strengths through the swm32 ports?Been having issues with SWM32's going bad.
     
  5. peds48

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    It should be no different than a SWM8 or SWM16.
     
  6. kjgarrison

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    Could be another dumb one .... did a search without any luck ...

    I have a DVR in my basement that is attached to an old HDTV (1080i) via DVI and it is attached to my main floor primary HDTV via component cables. The PI is in the basement right behind the old HDTV and of course attaches to the DVR.

    I would like to move the DVR up to the main floor primary HDTV and connect via HDMI. I would simply reverse the component connection for the basement TV which is used very little.

    Now to the questions: Can I leave the PI where it is? (It would not be connected to a DVR, but of course would still be connected to the coax cable to the dish) If it CAN function without a connection to a DVR, does the unused output from the PI (that formerly went to the DVR) need to be terminated?

    Thanks all,

    Ken
     
  7. carl6

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    The PI should work just fine, as long as you leave the coax running from it back toward the dish in place and wired the way it is.
     
  8. peds48

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    Yup, it needs to be terminated
     
  9. kjgarrison

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    carl6 and peds48, thanks for the replies.
     
  10. Mar 5, 2014 #1290 of 1305
    mika911

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    I have a HR22-100 and an old DirecTiVo (SD) currently in use. I also have a HR20 on account though it's not hooked up. I have a SlimLine dish with the 4 outputs.

    What do I need to replace so I could put add a Genie on my account?
    Do I have to replace the LNB on the dish plus get one of those SWM adapters? What do I exactly need? Am I correct that once I setup SWM, the old SD DirecTivo wouldn't work?

    Also, once you have SWM, will a receiver like Genie and HR22 automatically work for Whole Home DVR? I don't have to have Whole Home DVR right now but might want it down the road.

    The Genie on my main plasma is my real goal ,but I'd hate to make the other receivers inoperable.

    Thanks. I always do my own installation work to save the hassle/worry of the installers.
     
  11. Mar 5, 2014 #1291 of 1305
    veryoldschool

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    The old Tivo won't work on a SWiM.
    You have two options:
    Drop the Tivo and use a SWiMLNB, which needs a power supply [PI] and splitter..
    Keep the Tivo and use a SWM8 switch, which you can connect the Tivo to on a legacy port, then a PI & splitter
    "Whole home" is networking, which once you have a SWiM, you can use the DECA adapter on the HR22 and the Genie has it internal.
    SWiM only has to do with whole home in that you need it to use the DECA networking.
     
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  12. Mar 5, 2014 #1292 of 1305
    mika911

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    Thank you. I think I understand it. I may go the LNB route and keep the HR22 and HR20 for now.
    Once the Genie arrives, I will replace the HR20 with it. Then later on if I get fed up with slow HR22 I could get one of the add on Mini for second room.
    If you had an add-on Mini and a Genie, the networking would be automatic?

    DirecTV should let me activate the Genie though, even if I'm not setup for the networking (I'm not going to bother setting up the HR22 to talk to Genie)? Honestly I wouldn't really even need networking in that solution until I get the mini (if ever) to replace the HR22.

    Thanks. Great information! It simplified what I had researched.


    I have two lines of course running to HR22 so my plan would be to use one of those backwards to supply the power to the splitter. The splitter can be outside in bad weather, or is that a no go (my weather isn't so bad actually but it wouldn't be covered)? Then use the other line to bring in the signal from the splitter.

    I shouldn't ask anymore, but would 3 sat LNB or ok or do I need 5 sat LNB? I think 110 & 119 aren't used for most people now? Or smarter to get 5 LNB?

    If I get the 3 sat LNB, even though my dish MIGHT need slight tweaking, will it more or less still be aimed from my current 5 LNB with the quad output built in? Thanks again.

    Just thought of something...I still have an 18 -inch DTV dish on my roof. I guess I could feed a SD DirecTiVo from it for 101 only, should work fine. It's not pointed at 101 right now, but those little things couldn't be easier to aim.


     
  13. Mar 5, 2014 #1293 of 1305
    peds48

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    mika911

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  15. Mar 5, 2014 #1295 of 1305
    peds48

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    I guess they need to make sure is installed to their standards just in case you ever call for service


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  16. Mar 6, 2014 #1296 of 1305
    mika911

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    I see what you mean. I did similar trick back when I had single LNB dish (101) and wanted a Tivo HD. I installed 3 LNB dish myself, and by buying the receiver myself, they activated it without problem. I just called and said I was ready to activate.

    I guess they might have cracked down on that. They have online receiver activation too, but it probably blocks Genies.

    I will check with the stores I was considering buying (leasing) the Genie from, to see if they've heard anything.

    Thanks again.

     
  17. Mar 6, 2014 #1297 of 1305
    peds48

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    Online activation only works for replacement receivers drop shipped by DirecTV
     
  18. Mar 6, 2014 #1298 of 1305
    mika911

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    Thanks.
    Weaknees told me I should be able to activate it on the phone with zero problems so I guess I will give it a chance. I'll post back how it goes (my fingers crossed).

    So grateful I had my (many) questions answered here in less than a day! Amazing help. Thanks again.
     
  19. Stevies3

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    Currently in my setup I have 10 total tuners. If I remove one of my HR24's for an RVU TV knocking me down to 8 tuners do I need to replace my swm16 with a SWM8? Or is the SWM16 backward compatable.


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  20. inkahauts

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    You are fine. There is no minimum. There's only a max.
     

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