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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Sea bass, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. Jul 20, 2012 #61 of 286
    MysteryMan

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    TCM was launched in the U.S. in 1994 and is now seen in ten other countries. Given that they must be popular.
     
  2. Jul 20, 2012 #62 of 286
    dpeters11

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    I'm just glad they are into preserving the original vision of the film and not colorizing like Turner used to be into. Though, I have heard some people discovered some great movies because of it, then realized they liked the original version.
     
  3. Jul 20, 2012 #63 of 286
    mnassour

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    Well, it sure as shootin' ran American Movie Classics right out of business. That was probably for the best, though. I'm not sure there's room in this here town for two commercial-free, old movie channels.

    At least that's what AMC (formerly American Movie Classics) figured out.



    One interesting thing about Turner's colorization. In order to colorize a movie, the original prints had to be restored to a pristine state. What happened was no one wanted the colorized versions, and we were left with a LOT of classics that were in much better condition than they would have been, otherwise! Thanks Ted!
     
  4. Jul 20, 2012 #64 of 286
    charlie460

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    I guess it depends on your perception of "popular." It is certainly less watched than USA, HGTV, TLC, Food Network, TNT, TBS, MTV, hell, probably even TruTV. A lot of people would rather watch "reality" shows on these channels than quality programming, but that is a separate discussion. :lol:
     
  5. Jul 20, 2012 #65 of 286
    MysteryMan

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    American Movie Classics did a fine job their first 18 years. They went astray in 1998 when they incorporated commercials. In 2002 they did a format change and became what they are now.
     
  6. Jul 21, 2012 #66 of 286
    Mark Holtz

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    Partially... a nicely restored movie without all the dirt and rips compresses better under MPEG2/MPEG4.
     
  7. Jul 21, 2012 #67 of 286
    Alan Gordon

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    Another poster pretty much stated the same thing, but TCM-HD provides something other than the increase in quality.

    Namely... formatting. Whenever TCM showed a widescreen movie, the only way to watch it on a 16:9 HDTV was to zoom in, which would be bad enough on a DVD, but with the level of compression on DirecTV's SD channels, it'd look terrible.

    TCM provides classic movies... many of which you simply do not see anywhere else. As far as niches go, it's a dang good one...

    Besides, DirecTV, FiOS, and Mediacom were the only three providers not carrying the channel in HD, so DirecTV was in the minority.

    It's also important to mention that in a poll taken here on DBSTalk in 2010, TCM-HD was the 6th most wanted channel. In 2011, it was #2... though it most likely would have ranked slightly lower had it not been for the omission of several channels for specific reasons. On a personal level, only CW HD-DNS, BBCA-HD, and TV Land HD ranked higher on my list of personal wants, so to each their own...

    ~Alan
     
  8. Jul 21, 2012 #68 of 286
    Alan Gordon

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    I would know...

    It's not partial HD... it's upconverted HD.

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  9. Jul 21, 2012 #69 of 286
    Alan Gordon

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    I posted multiple times in the Viacom thread, because I watch an assortment of programs on the Viacom channels... and I too rolled my eyes at the people discounting the channels since they do not care for anything on them. One of my most wanted channels to have access to in HD is The CW network, and over the years, I have read multiple people belittle it, some of whom have access to it in HD and don't care.

    I believe everyone has the right to like whatever they want. That being said, I will forever consider "reality" programming to be crap, and if a specific channel consists of nothing but "reality" programming, I'm going to call it a "crap" channel.

    This is not a judgement on the person, but rather a judgement on the content providers who force this garbage on America.

    If one wants to watch crap programming, I support them, and I certainly believe that they shouldn't be attacked for it, but I'm not going to flower it up.

    ~Alan
     
  10. Jul 21, 2012 #70 of 286
    Sea bass

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    That is pretty cool!
     
  11. Jul 21, 2012 #71 of 286
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    I've had TCM-HD for over a year now since I've been using TWC as my primary provider. I'd wanted to check it out since TCM had fallen off my frequently viewed list since going HD in 2005. I was disappointed by the PQ and subsequently found out about the 480i up-conversion. Back to un-watched list, but yeah, I could tell the difference. And I fully agree with your original post Charlie.
     
  12. Jul 21, 2012 #72 of 286
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    I won't give you crap. But I will ask you this:

    If DirecTV offered you the power to have the company bring in a total of five high definition feeds of channels currently carried only in standard def … which ones would you choose?
     
  13. Jul 21, 2012 #73 of 286
    mnassour

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    All fair points...and frankly, we're not too far apart on our personal assessment of what passes for television programming on many of the Viacom channels.

    However, let's remember that nothing is being forced on anyone. As I think we're all aware, the only reasons any commercial TV show makes it to and remains on air is that 1) people watch it, 2) the advertisers like it and 3) it makes money for the producers.

    But then, this is an argument that's been going on ever since the first Greek Dramas were produced...is popular entertainment debasing the culture. I certainly don't know the answer to that, but our descendents will probably be having the same arguments 500 years from now.

    :D
     
  14. Jul 21, 2012 #74 of 286
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    1. BBC America
    2. H2
    3. IFC
    4. Nat Geo Wild
    5. ION

    Again, this is my personal opinion, primarily based on the fact that TCM HD is merely showing upconverts right now, if they were showing true HD content, I'd have it up there.

    And yes, I'll admit that by #5 on that list I was stretching a bit. I barely watch ION. But my point is, at the rate DirecTV adds HD basics, I just would have liked to see some actual HD.
     
  15. Jul 21, 2012 #75 of 286
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    Okay. I will play along and nitpick as you did. Much of H2 is older documentaries done in SD and 4x3. Not a bad thing but the same as you are criticizing TCM for. Except the History channel has a history of stretching 4x3 content. So it is worse.

    I have IFC in hd on fios. What I've seen of TCM so far is better picture quality (oh and they will stretch 4x3 content as well).

    BBCA I can go with but they have commercials.

    Ion? Really? Nothing more to say.

    NGC wild is beautiful in HD.

    But as your list shows, we are in niche land. And much of what you listed is not "true HD"

    Seriously, if it were not known that TCM did upconverts no one would be able to tell. So using that as an argument is weak, actually.
     
  16. Jul 21, 2012 #76 of 286
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    The Magnificent Seven this afternoon.
     
  17. Jul 21, 2012 #77 of 286
    charlie460

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    Well, considering we do know that TCM HD is all upconverted content, any of these channels, even with some HD content, show more HD content than TCM.

    Also, I'd have to disagree about IFC, at least for their original content -- the PQ looks far better than TCM to me.

    And yes, as I said, I was reaching by item #5 on that list -- I very rarely watch ION. No need for the condescending "Really? Nothing more to say."

    Regardless, I realize a lot of you like TCM HD and I'm glad you've finally got it.
     
  18. Jul 21, 2012 #78 of 286
    Davenlr

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    DirecTv is broadcasting it at 1080i.
     
  19. Jul 21, 2012 #79 of 286
    charlie460

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    You're right. I have my receiever in Native mode, but for some reason it had not switched to 1080i when I flipped to TCM, I flipped back and forth with another channel and it is.
     
  20. Jul 21, 2012 #80 of 286
    TomK

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    I now have two recordings of 'The Searchers', one recorded yesterday on TCMHD and the other one recorded in June on HDNET Movies. While I am sure the HDNET Movies version is better (has to be, right?), the TCMHD version is, in my opinion, as clear, is as good, and the audio is very good, all as you would imagine it should be. I'm a very happy camper with TCMHD.
     
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