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TCM HD

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Sea bass, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. MysteryMan

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    As I posted elsewhere per Wikipedia: TCM HD: In June 2009 Turner Classic Movies launched a high definition version of the channel, showing the same programming as it's standard definition channel. Initial programming was not native high definition and was instead uoconverted from standard definition but benefited from the greater bandwidth allocated to the channel. Programs on the high definition feed are broadcast in upconverted 1080i...... Given that it's a vast improvement over their standard definition channel.
     
  2. tonyd79

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    Yeah. That's always a true indicator. Right now an obviously stretched SD European Vacation is marked as HD on TBS. But since it is marked HD....
     
  3. damondlt

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    Its not and no one said it was a True indicator. But they are not listing anything at all HD. If there was something in any way shape or form HD, it would be advertised!


    You guys need to get off your Directv Horse!

    HD Net Movies was good HD back in 2007.

    TCM looks no different now then it did 2 weeks ago when Directv just threw up an HD symbol next to the call letters.

    Directv fault , no thats TCM! But just cause Directv has it doesn't make it better then it was!
     
  4. Laxguy

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    You may find one other person to agree with you. May.

    But no one else shares that view. No one is saying it's true HD because of the source, but it's put out in a 1080 stream. And way better than two weeks ago.
     
  5. damondlt

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    Yea I forgot , since you said , you must be right!:rolleyes::lol:
     
  6. tonyd79

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    A very reasoned response. Not.

    Looks no different? Ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the laugh. I needed one.
     
  7. damondlt

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    No problem , I'm so used to Laughing at so many of yours, I thought I'd return the favor.:hurah:

    I love how so many will defend something . If Directv put out the Turd Channel in HD , it would be the best channel ever, cause Directv has it!:hurah:


    Upconvert isn't HD, so stop calling it that! I have a DVD player that upconverts, does it make it look better, Um No it makes it look like your watching tv through a screen door! And 4x3 Black and white upconverted by no means looks better then SD channel version.

    Stop trying to build up a poor product, this is the same excuses when the Viacom HD channels showed no HD for the first 2 years on their life with Directv.

    All the fanboys just tryied to convince everyone that it was still better then the SD version!! That was Priceless!:hurah::lol:

    When Dish had TCM HD first, most of you stood in line to rip it apart. I don't even have Dish, but guess what the channel hasn't changed since its on Directv!
     
  8. Mark Holtz

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    You need your glasses cleaned then, as it looks different from what it was two weeks ago.

    My 16x9 1080p is set so that there is no stretching of the screen when showing the SD channels. Previously, on the SD channel, if a letterbox movie was shown on TCM, it ended up being "windowboxed" as there were black borders around all four sides of the picture. If I zoomed in on the picture, it looked terrible.

    Now, when I watch a letterboxed movie on TCM HD, it fits the width of the television without any stretching, and the picture looks better than if I zoomed in on the SD picture.

    Is it a upconverted SD picture? I don't know. I didn't run a comparison because I didn't record Forbidden Planet[/i[ and then compare it between the DVD and BluRay versions that I have in my collection. But, then again, the BluRay is in 1080p.

    But, you don't have to believe me. The next time a letterbox movie is airing on TCM, turn on the SD channels, turn on double-play, then compare the SD version of TCM to the HD version.
     
  9. sdirv

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    You must have some VERY poor equipment if that's the case.

    I've got a Toshiba DVD player which upconverts it's output to 1080i, stuff looks great. Not hi def mind you, but better than 480i/p.

    I've also got a PS3 which upconverts it's output to 1080p.....again, VERY nice quality picture of not only DVD's that I play but products I stream like Netflix, Amazon.....

    Both these pieces of equipment go through a Sony AV Surround sound receiver via HDMI to a 65" Mitsubishi DLP set. None of it is what I consider to be "top flight" equipment.

    Heck I've got an Insignia blu-ray player in my bedroom feeding a 32" Insignia LCD flatscreen via HDMI. When playing DVD's or streaming Netflix, it upconverts to 1080i and looks amazing......and Insignia is just about the bottom rung of equipment made.
     
  10. mitchflorida

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    I for one don't see much difference in the 4x3 pre-1952 movies on TCM-HD. Especially the old black and whites.

    The 16x9 movies are another story and a big improvement.
     
  11. tonyd79

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    Really? Most of us who are happy to have it WANTED it.

    You are so focused on pro and anti directv that you are losing sight of the subject. No one ha said TCM is pure HD. We've said it is extremely better than it was. To deny that is to be blind, or to lie to promote an agenda.

    Dish's lack of HD quality is another topic.

    And you need a new DVD player. If it looks like a screen door, it is a garbage player.
     
  12. tonyd79

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    The older movies all look better but some of them are not good source material. There was an old movie I never heard of before that looked not so good (forgot name but it was on late). But Fire Over England was very good.

    All much better than SD, though.
     
  13. Rob

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    Jane Russel and Maryln Monroe both look good regardless of the picture quality.
     
  14. MysteryMan

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    Those two gals would look good in braille. ;)
     
  15. tonyd79

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    Or even better. ;)
     
  16. bidger

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    Glad for you that you find it watchable. I just wasn't impressed. It's 2012 and if a channel doesn't provide a HD presentation I look elsewhere. When TCM does provide true HD I'll revisit it.

    1080i or 720p makes no difference to me as long as it's a quality transmission. Seems kinda backwards that were on the verge of 4k Ultra HD sets rolling out and no 1080p content outside of Blu-ray. And since I'm on the topic, yeah, DVD playback is not high on my priority list like it was a decade ago.

    I prefer to have both.

    Films lacking in substance are far from a recent phenomenon.

    Glad for everyone who's enjoying TCM-...in a better PQ. If and when they provide HD I'll be glad to join in the celebration.
     
  17. crawdad62

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    This is something I alluded to in the anticipation thread and didn't get any replies. At work we've had TCM in HD for a year or so and I could swear back then the lead ins and Robert Osborne sections were 16:9 and the bug in the corner of the screen said TCM HD. I don't get a chance to watch it much at work because it's majority rules and most guys want to watch something else so I didn't keep up with it but I checked and the HD bug logo is gone and just as on D* any "between the movie" content seems out of wack. I saw "The Essentials" last night and the segment was window boxed on my set.
     
  18. damondlt

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    Agree
     
  19. damondlt

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    Totally False. Compair the SD to the HD channel right now. I can put the SD Version in Pillar Box and make it look just like the HD version. the PQ difference is very minimal at best.
     
  20. damondlt

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    Upconvert never looks amazing! Enough said :lol:

    I would bet in the real world you would find more people would prefer a 480p over a 480i upconverted to 1080i.
     
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