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Tech said I should use "native off"

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by dlh, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. ToBeFrank

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    Right, but if you lock the DVR to 1080i, it will interlace and scale the 720p signal. Then the tv will deinterlace it back to 1080p. This is not the same as simply scaling 720p to 1080p.
     
  2. gfrang

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    If you turn native off you should set the STB's resolution to the tv's resoution so the tv does little to no scaling.
    On a 1080p tv.
    For 480i stb has to scale and deinterlace
    For 720p stb has to scale and interlace tv has to deinterlace
    For 1080i tv has to deinterlace
     
  3. gilviv

    gilviv Godfather

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    Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!
    It became a dreaded ON/OFF Native Thread again!!!!!!
    It's ALIVE!!!!:rolleyes::lol::lol::rolleyes::lol::eek2::eek2:
     
  4. josetann

    josetann Legend

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    Just hook it up using composite video. Now you don't have to worry about native-on or off.
     
  5. irock

    irock Cool Member

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    i leave native on and like it. :)
     
  6. dlh

    dlh AllStar

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    Sorry and SORRY. I'm the op and I was afraid this deadly threadly would arise from the gave. Let's all agree that we're :beatdeadhorse:
    Stick a fork in me.
     
  7. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Whatever it "technically" is the fact is that it looks better on my TV to send it 1080i all the time vs. 720p all the time. Thus I lock the DVR on 1080i and I'm done with it and I get the best picture I can get.
     
  8. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    "In your opinion" [oops, that's all that counts, since you're the one watching it :lol: ]
     
  9. ToBeFrank

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    Unless you're watching sports that are broadcast in 720p. The "technical" part is you're decreasing your motion resolution in that case. But like VOS said, if your opinion works for you, go for it.
     
  10. gfrang

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    Next time i go into the bedroom i am changing the h20 back to native and that's it,set it and forget it.Then with both tv's set to native will that makes me a native American even though i am Mediterranean decent?:confused:
     
  11. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    It's not my opinion. It's fact on my TV. Period. End of discussion. It may not be fact on your setup. Sending 720p to my TV does not look better then 1080i even on 720p sports. And I watch a LOT of sports (hockey and football).

    Every single setup is different. Set things to what looks best to you. I spent 2 weeks with different settings on my old HDTV to get the best settings and I did the same with this new Plasma. ;)
     
  12. ToBeFrank

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    You mean I have better eyes than you. ;)
     
  13. Shades228

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    Clearly 480p is the best because it's progressive and the pixels are bigger. Bigger=better!
     
  14. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Or maybe my "tiny" 52" screen doesn't show a difference as some of you with 110" monsters see. :D
     
  15. YKW06

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    For folks who have a native 720p or 1080i/p screen, Native-Off and set to output at your screen's native res is almost certainly best.

    For someone like me with an odd resolution screen (900p), though, it makes absolute sense to leave Native on so as to avoid having the HR21 re-res the signal once and then my TV re-res it again (which the odd screen requires be done with standard digital signals).
     
  16. veryoldschool

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    "No, it's not", or at least isn't for my Sony XBR2.
     
  17. jonkeee

    jonkeee Cool Member

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    Agreed.
     
  18. loudo

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    I leave my native "On", and tell the HR20 that my TV only receives 720p, 1080i and 1080p. That way my guide looks a lot better on SD channels. Otherwise it is very grainy if I leave 480 settings on.
     
  19. veryoldschool

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    That's another tweak/option, but it also suggests your TV doesn't have the best scaler.
    [Again] there is no one right answer/setting for everyone. Play with what you have and find what you find is best.

    Statements like: "almost certainly best" aren't correct for either setting, as it's too general and doesn't take into account the user's equipment or preference.
     
  20. loudo

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    I have noticed that. You kind of have to play with the different settings on different TVs. Each one seems to look better with certain settings.
     

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