Testing Splitters

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - SWMLine Discussion (private)' started by Coffey77, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. Coffey77

    Coffey77 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    I noticed you guys have some threads going about splitters you used and if they work or not. I was thinking of starting a single thread and keeping the PASS / FAIL rates on a list for when this stuff is released, maybe in a "First Look" or something. :) I'm trying to buy different splitters and try them out when I get the chance.

    Any ideas on categories, lists, anything that should be added, please let me know.

    Moderators - Please feel free to copy, change, move, delete, etc. this post. :)

    2-WAY
    • Ideal - 85-332 - Power Pass (One) - 5-2300Mhz - PASS
    • Philips - SDW5010O/17 - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    • Skywalker - SKY23302D - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    • SVI - 25-HFS22DN - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    3-WAY
    • Ideal - 85-333 - Power Pass (One) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    4-WAY
    • AudioQuest - F4F - Power Pass (One) - 5-3000MHz - PASS
    • Dynaflex - S-14 - 5-1000MHz - FAIL
    • Eagle Aspen - P-2150-4AP-GX - Power Pass (All) - PASS
    • Ideal - 85-334 - Power Pass (One) - 5-2300Mhz - PASS
    • GE - 22694 - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300Mhz - PASS
    • MCR - ES-104D - Power Pass (One) - 5-3000MHz - PASS
    • Perfect Vision - PV23-304 - Power Pass (One) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    • Philips - SDW5012O/17 - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    • Radio Shack - 16-2570 - Power Pass (One) - 40 - 2150 MHz
    • Skywalker - SKY23304D - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    DIPLEXERS
    • Skywalker - SKY23502 - Power Pass (Sat only) - 5 - 2300MHz - PASS

    NOTES/TIPS

    Power Inserter immediately after the dish and before the first splitter or set of splitters.
    Terminating unused ports may help to increase signal strenght and/or signal issues. - RECOMENDED BY DirecTV
     
  2. veryoldschool

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    4-WAY

    *Skywalker - SKY23304D - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
     
  3. RobertE

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    These have worked flawlessly for me:

    2-Way
    SVI 25-HFS22DN

    4-Way
    Perfect Vision PV23-304
     
  4. Mike Bertelson

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    2-WAY

    Skywalker - SKY23302D - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS

    I haven't had a single issue (SWM related anyway).

    The PI after the splitter.

    Mike
     
  5. azarby

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    4 Way

    Works perfectly "AudioQuest F>4F" This is a verified power pass one leg

    Bob
     
  6. Coffey77

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    Thanks for the responses! I'll get the links if I can in a bit, at work and fighting for the computer. :)
     
  7. spoonman

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    I'm using a Ideal 3-Way Power Pass (one leg) - 5-2300MHz with no issues
     
  8. Coffey77

    Coffey77 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    If you could please grab the model number, I'd appreciate it. :)
     
  9. SFNSXguy

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    Me too -- that would be the Ideal #85-333 (by the way... one leg is NOT terminated (open)... different strokes?
     
  10. gmmorrell

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    Skywalker - SKY23302D - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS
    Ideal - 85-332 - Power Pass 1 - 5-2300Mhz - Pass

    Only if all unused ports are terminated.
     
  11. Coffey77

    Coffey77 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Thanks! This might be one of the next ones I was going to order.
     
  12. Coffey77

    Coffey77 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Is this because of your cable length and/or signal loss?

    I added a note at the bottom for any tips/hints you guys have come across. Let me know if they need to be changed or re-worded.

    Thanks!
     
  13. spoonman

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    I will try to remember when I get home:)
     
  14. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Terminating all unused ports is:
    1) recommended by DirecTV
    2) simply a good idea.
    While a SWM system [or any other RF system] may work with open ports, there will be a reflection coming back off the open port which can cancel the forward RF signal. In RF terms it's VSWR [voltage standing wave ratio]. You want the forward signal as strong as possible and the return wave as small as possible.
     
  15. tony4d

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    I would say terminating unused ports is recommended rather than required. Maybe even say strongly recommended.

    I have the ideal 4 way splitter and one port is unused and not terminated, and I don't appear to have any signal problems. Who knows though, after I terminate that port I may see better signals at my receivers. I'm gonna take some before and after readings this weekend and report back.
     
  16. SAlBO

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    Ideal - 8334 - Power Pass (All) - 5-2300MHz - PASS

    edit to add:

    I have a single run from the dish - from one leg of the splitter to the PI and then on to the HR20-700

    since the last couple CE's I havent had any of the searching for sat signal errors so I dont think it was the splitter....I have some terminators ordered to close off the unused port...

    this last statement was true until last night when I got two or three in a row on the HR21-100.
    As soon as the new Aspen splitter gets here I will change it and see what happens. It could just be that I havent terminated the unused ports yet....I will try the terminators with the Ideal plitter and see how that works before changing tot he Aspen splitter with terminators
     
  17. johnck78

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    I don't quite understand the *

    I have this splitter after the dish followed by the PI and then after the PI with no issues

    DISH> Skywalker SKY23302D>Leg 1> HR20-700
    ..........................Leg 2> Skywalker SKY23302D>Leg 1> PI> HR20-700
    ....................................................Leg 2> HR21-700
     
  18. SFNSXguy

    SFNSXguy EOE

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    OK.... just for the heck of it I just terminated the one open end of my coax system.

    I could see no change in signal strengths (was watching 103(s) )

    Would there be a larger possibility of change on some other sat/transponders? (Should I repeat looking elsewhere?)
     
  19. Canis Lupus

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    4-WAY
    Ideal - 85-334 - Power Pass (Unknown) - 5-2300Mhz - PASS

    Notes: Splitter is after PI and is also diplexed with Unknown Model # Ideal Diplexer.
    Splitter serves 2 x HR20-700, and HR21-700. 4th port is Open.
     
  20. veryoldschool

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    Since your "levels" are more a bit error rate [digital], I doubt with the receiver you would see any changes. If you were to look at the signal voltage levels, then you might. This would take something like a Spectrum analyzer to see though.
     

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