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Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, May 29, 2012.
I never skipped school. I didn't like school, and sometimes I stayed out when I was not sick enough not to go... but I never skipped. I always, even on those non-sick days, had parental consent to be home... and I didn't skip to go somewhere else. When I was out "sick" I was home.
That should have been.
Looking forward to the sweep.
I find it ironic that when she went to jail last Wednesday for her 24-hour sentence, she missed another day of school.
I thought the exact same thing...
We probably aren't getting the whole story, and maybe never will... but I'm definitely not seeing any evidence of sending a good message to school-age kids here.
Not sure about that. I read today that the judge expunged her record AND a website that was set up to raise money for this hard working girl has raised almost $100,000.
But I suspect the money won't slow her down too much.
I'm still waiting for this story to blow up in everyone's faces.
I'm starting to turn too... Something doesn't feel right.
I read the same thing a few moments ago
A few mote details:
Not really sure how it can.
Since Miss Tan is considered an adult (or at least in their court system) in Texas, her hearings are pretty much a matter of public record.- f this were not the case, I might agree
Miss Tran was sentenced and served 24 hours in jail - this has been confirmed. - see my comment above
Miss Tran, her family or friends were smart enough to call the local media when Miss Tran was sent to jail. - Had the judge not sent her to jail, this story would have gone nowhere.
Miss Tran is not connected with the third party group raising money in her behalf and has no intentions of keeping it. - This says a lot to me.
If you think about it, this judge is a hypocrite. He talks about how Miss Tran should not be missing school but yet he sentences her to 24 hours behind bars which effectively caused her to miss 2 days of school (which ends today, May 31 according to Montgomery County school calendars). I have not even taken into consideration the number of days she was forced to miss with the initial truancy hearing(s)
Sadly, the judge may dismissed the contempt charge (I have found nothing saying that it was expunged) but Miss Tran will probably find herself having to explain this mess to potential schools & employers the rest of her life.
I don't get the controversy and doubt posted here.
The Judge screwed up, apparently realized it and expunged the record. That means nothing will come up during a records check for an application. Nothing to explain, officially. The news articles may come up during a background check, but they explain the situation.
That said, the Judge still needs to be disciplined or removed at the next election (if this is an elected position). Whoever filed the initial complaint (truancy officer, principal, etc.), also needs to be disciplined or removed from office. Just the process of being booked into jail is a miserable and humiliating process and this student should not have been subjected to it, nor to the court process.
This is not a matter of blowing off school to go hang out with the buds at the beach. The school work was done. She didn't even 'skip' school at all as I read it. She was late because of working extra hours at a family owned business. Those tardys should have been excused outright and no case ever filed.
In case y'all missed it, this is about MONEY. Schools can be docked based on student attendance. Truancy enforcement is not about students getting educated. It's about schools wanting warm bodies in seats when roll is called.
As I understand it, he did not expunge her record but dismissed the contempt charge. These are two totally different things. If in fact, he only dismissed the charges she can truthfully say that she has never been convicted of a crime. However, the charge should still appear along with the notation that charges were dismissed.
The judge technically did nothing wrong and disciplining him would be just as foolish as his putting Miss Tran behind bars for 24 hours. Miss Tran violated a Texas law and as such as was called into court for it. Miss Tran then violated his order and as such was guilty of contempt.
The problem here is the judge made an example of the wrong person. I'm sorry but making a example of an honor student who is working two jobs to help support her family is not wise.
I had not heard anything about her job being in a family business. If that's the case then we have some other issues here and they fall with her parents. This whole issue could have been avoided had Tran's parents chose to home school her after her initial appearance. Hopefully, Miss Tran will be smart enough not to take a full load in her senior year and this issue can be avoided in the future.
In post #40, I told a true story of my having skipped school to hitchhike six miles to a library at which I worked on two term papers. That is absolutely true.
My father worked as assistant manager in a stationary store in that town, half a mile from that library. Three days a week, on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, his shift was Noon to Ten PM, with a one and a half hour dinner break from 4:30 to 6:00, which he came home for. That library stayed open until 11:00, and I often would ride to town with him to use that library in the evenings and could have done so that day and had actually done so several times previously when working on those two papers, so I didn't really need to skip school that day..
That university has a nice game room where we could play ping pong for 30 cents an hour and pool for seventy cents an hour, and we often stopped at Fritz's hotdog cart on the way back to the library, if and when we went back to it at all.
We don't know what information the judge had to go on when he made his ruling. Transcripts are not ordinarily produced of court hearings unless the decisions are appealed to a higher court. We don't know if, each time the judge said something to this kid, she said, "Yeah. Whatever." indicating no intention to do what she was told to do, and while we can picture her living the life of a nun or working in a sweatshop, I can picture a lot of other ways she could be living her life, too.
When I was nineteen, I was laboring in a factory for $1.85 an hour and I worked all the overtime that job would let me take, and when my 22 year old sister scraped up enough money to go on a group trip to England to see some prominent theater company's performance of a Shakespere play, she hardly had any spending money so I gave her a hundred dollars. Am I a saint or what? The more accurate answer would be, "... or what?", because it was the only time in that era that I gave her money, whereas I spent thousands of dollars of the money I earned working at that job on booze and dope.
We really know nothing about this story. Not one story I have seen has identified the case number or the actual charge that she faced. Not a single court order or transcript of a single hearing has been published. Who represented her in court? Suddenly there is a story that she retained an attorney yesterday, but no indication that he ever appeared in court on her behalf. There is no indication that any other attorney appeared in court on her behalf. Suddenly money is being collected, but the attorney says that she has nothing to do with it. We are told in a story that she is an adult under Texas law, but there is no citation to prove this. We are told she went to jail, but, if that were so, some news agency would very likely publish a copy of her booking photo at the time she went to jail. Where is it? And why are people on this board jumping to conclusions based on a flimsy set of contradictory news stories?
When the distants lawsuit was going on with Dish and the networks back in 2006, we had extensive discussion on this board. The discussion included many links to the court where we could review documents and determine what was really happening. That is the type of educational discussion we should be having. Here we don't have any of that.
Remember that feel good story last year about a street person with the "golden voice" named Ted Williams who had fallen on hard times?
The video of his story went viral, at least until the TV station that had run the segment on him hired a law firm to rein that video in. I remarked in a few forums elsewhere that there were too many holes in the story, and sure enough, the thirty year gap between him breaking into broadcasting and then bottoming out got filled in.
Meet the Felon With the Golden Voice
Within a day, someone had collected twelve of Ted Williams's nineteen booking photos.
Now, I'm not sayin'..... but, we've been had before.
The only thing flimsy around here is your reasoning that this is not a story. The stories have been consistent since the beginning with additional details supplied as they became available. Just because you may not have liked how you personally liked how the information was presented does not make it contradictory. I realize you want them to publish every single detail out there including Miss Tran's bra size but it's not necessary.
Are you actually comparing this to the 2006 Dish Network case? !rolling
If you think there are problems with this story then take the time and actually go and research it and provide all of us proof that in fact it is wrong. Until such time as when you or someone else has done that, I see no reason to disbelieve it.
I say vote the POS judge out.
Montgomery County Police reporter. Scroll down about 2/3 of the way (Tran, Diane) to see charges and case number.
Thank you for the information. It appears that she was booked for contempt of court. This is the first solid piece of information that I have seen on the case.