That time of the year again.. carriage agreement deadlines

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  1. Jan 5, 2017 #101 of 127
    slice1900

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    Unfortunately that assumption is incorrect. If they could simply choose to deliver to a receiver via internet instead of broadcast, they wouldn't have needed to secure streaming rights contracts for Directv Now, and would be able to deliver all the same locals with all the same content (i.e. NFL not blacked out) for those locals they deliver via satellite.

    If they could change delivery methods when using a "receiver" (i.e. Directv provided device) they could have started up Directv Now years ago and provided an H25 or client running different software, or made a deal with Roku to rebrand one of their streaming boxes with the Directv logo.

    The reason it is legal to stream from your Hopper w/Sling or GenieGo or whatever to your tablet is because that's not a rebroadcast per copyright law, since it is considered "fair use" since it is done privately. If you gave your neighbors access to your GenieGo, technically that would be a violation of copyright law and you'd be liable for up to $150,000 per incident (though I doubt anyone has ever been sued or doing this) Aside from such fair use, ANY time copyrighted material is rebroadcast there must be a contract in place with the copyright owner allowing that specific rebroadcast. Streaming over the internet to a receiver is a rebroadcast, and it is a DIFFERENT rebroadcast than broadcasting it via satellite, and needs a contract to cover it or it is illegal.
     
  2. Jan 5, 2017 #102 of 127
    Bronxiniowa

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    Also, I believe you need to subscribe to the system provider to access on-demand through a third-party app such as Roku. So you're screwed either way?
     
  3. Jan 5, 2017 #103 of 127
    CTJon

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    My on demand version which was there Monday is now gone also.
     
  4. Jan 5, 2017 #104 of 127
    James Long

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    Streaming is streaming. If the method of delivery didn't matter AT&T could have instantly transferred all of their UVerse customers over to DIRECTV and saved a lot of money on carriage rights. DISH could carry any of their satellite channels via SlingTV. But delivery method matters.

    I assume that it would be easier to get delivery rights over a closed network (cable, Uverse, satellite are closed networks). Delivering content over the uncontrolled Internet scares content providers.
     
  5. Jan 6, 2017 #105 of 127
    gemery

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    Same here. Lost ABC in Boston from on demand

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  6. Jan 6, 2017 #106 of 127
    techstar

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    Not true, that seems to still be working, for the time being. Watched Law and Order SVU last night on the NBC app, and had to log in with my DirecTV info, using my Roku.

    Probably will have to use the NBC Sports App with Roku to watch the playoff game tomorrow night, like I did last week for Packers/Lions. Hopefully that option won't get shut down.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2017 #107 of 127
    trh

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    CBS Jacksonville (Bayshore Television) is back on.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2017 #108 of 127
    Curtis0620

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    Still no Hearst agreement
     
  9. Jan 6, 2017 #109 of 127
    augisdad

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    Both KMBC 9 and KCWE 29 in Kansas City area are dark. Both are Hearst owned stations. I didn't even know they were gone until I read an article from The Kansas City Star dated Jan 3. So far I've only missed one show that I record.
     
  10. Jan 6, 2017 #110 of 127
    hasan

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    KCCI in Des Moines, IA is still off. (Local CBS, CH 8).
    It's been 6 days, Winter Prime has started, as have NFL Playoffs.
    Good bargaining position for KCCI.
    Thank God for OTA. Local Wally World is sold out of cheap OTA antennas.

    My AM-21 for the D* box is working perfectly. I'm glad D* did not completely abandon OTA when they took the internal OTA tuners out (after the HR-20).

    I have lots of sympathy for those w/o OTA. It's no fun being held prisoner by the avarice of the powers that be.
     
  11. Jan 6, 2017 #111 of 127
    whotony

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    NBC is still off in Orlando
     
  12. Jan 6, 2017 #112 of 127
    augisdad

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    Glad my HR-20 is still plugging away as my backup. Now I just have to get all my ABC/CW programs set up to record OTA.
     
  13. Jan 7, 2017 #113 of 127
    noahproblem

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    The release doesn't say whether it's a settlement or just a truce (I'm hoping the former) but the Hearst signals are back on: WCVB returns to DirecTV
     
  14. Jan 7, 2017 #114 of 127
    Mark Holtz

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    From KCRA:
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  15. Jan 7, 2017 #115 of 127
    CTJon

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    My station in Portland Maine is back - went to the Directvpromise.com site to see what it say and it still indicates Hearst/Directv contract issue - but why would anyone expect AT&T to update site.
    As long as it is back = now I need to be able to find and record the couple of shows I missed. So far can't find them
     
  16. Jan 7, 2017 #116 of 127
    noahproblem

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    Did anybody else get their affected on demand channel back? ABC On Demand is still missing from my box (and I checked "All Channels" - there still isn't even a greyed-out channel there). I'm beginning to think this really is only a temporary truce and we might lose them again.
     
  17. Jan 7, 2017 #117 of 127
    TANK

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    Both Orlando stations -NBC -CH 2 and CW CH 18 are back on.
    NBC on demand is still removed.
     
  18. Jan 7, 2017 #118 of 127
    BLMN

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    WCVB (ABC) channel 5 and WMUR (ABC) channel 9 are both back. ABC on demand is still gone as of 12:30pm est.
     
  19. Jan 7, 2017 #119 of 127
    hasan

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    KCCI Ch 8 CBS is back on. I'm going to keep my AM21 recording in parallel for a while, in case this isn't a "full" settlement".
     
  20. Jan 7, 2017 #120 of 127
    slovell

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    WYFF in Greenville, SC came back on last night. These peeing contests over fees get so old so quick. I'm tempted to go back to an antenna and a VCR. I wonder if the weather emergency we're having down here had something to do with it.
     
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