I called Dish today to ask why my PVR 508 was no longer receiving signal, as a message on the TV screen states that my smart card cannot be used for programming. One of the Tech Support CSR told me they started discontinuing the service on the 508 last week. Meaning, it now can be used for a boat anchor or otherwise. No complaints here as it has served me well these past 14 years. BTW, anyone want a used PVE508 Dish Receiver....Free of course. Just pay a few bucks for shipping.