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The 9 biggest cancelled shows

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by RunnerFL, May 17, 2012.

  1. RunnerFL

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  2. Earl Bonovich

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    To be a fly on the wall.

    We really enjoyed Rob and Unforgettable.

    Terra Nova, I think was a victim of this crazy split season design.
    It's cost start/stop development for large chunk of times.

    CSI:Miami kinda went the way of Law and Order (Original).
    Someone just decided it was time for it to end, even though you could probably keep those shows going on for ever.

    I can see Rob being picked up by NBC maybe, then need some good shows.

    Alcatraz was axed before anyone could really get into the show...


    These networks seems to only rely on what the Critics say... if they don't like it for what ever reason... boom show is gone. Be darned what the raitings and the people say.
     
  3. RunnerFL

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    The one that surprised me the most was Rob. It was beating anything in it's time slot but was cancelled because it lost viewers from Big Bang Theory?? I would expect it to lose some viewers from BBT. Most viewers of BBT are a niche group.
     
  4. Church AV Guy

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    It's the most popular comedy on television. I would hardly call that a niche group.
     
  5. Earl Bonovich

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    Niche isn't the right word for it....

    But as a fan of both shows, we didn't watch them in sync.
    Rob was our evening before going to bed type comedy.

    BBT, was our must watch for the night.

    We love BBT (record it on 3 DVRs)...
    We enjoy Rob, but can easily see where it attracts two very different audiences.
     
  6. pfp

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    OUCH!
    Can't even trust 2 DVR's to properly record it. :eek2:
     
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    I am going to assume those are NOT avg. ratings but the highest number they ever pulled for one show. Hard to believe if any of those pulled those numbers every night that they were cancelled. Of course it is hard for me to believe anyone could stand iRob either.
     
  8. Earl Bonovich

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    :)

    Actually our main DVR has never missed it (an HR34).

    It is on the other two, because of conflicts (carry over from seasons prior to us having the HR34).

    No reason to remove it :)
     
  9. phrelin

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    Well, yes and no. "Big Bang Theory" actually beat "American Idol" at 8:00-8:30 on Thursday, so shifting "Two and a Half Men" to the Thursday 8:30-9:00 slot in hopes of winning the whole hour is smart, though risky.

    That then left a question: Where would they put "Rob"? The only half-hour slots they had left were on Monday. Their weakest Monday shows never pulled anything nearly as low as "Rob" pulled.

    And the article is spinning the ratings. "Terra Nova" pulled 2.1 in the demo and less than 7 million total viewers in late fall, not 3.6 and 12 million. Those real ratings would be cheered if they were for Fox's cheap-to-produce "Kitchen Nightmares" on a Friday. But "Terra Nova" was very expensive and this was a Monday night.

    Any of the listed shows would be winners on The CW if they cost as little to produce as "Hart of Dixie." But none were picked up by cable channels, unlike "Cougar Town", which gives you a clue to the economics.
     
  10. John Strk

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    I will miss Terra Nova, Alcatraz, and Unforgettable but if I had to pick one that I'm most pissed off about it would be Terra Nova. Rot in hell fox!!!! :mad:
     
  11. RunnerFL

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    I didn't say the entire viewership was. I do however know some "Professional Geeks" who don't watch TV that tune in to BBT. I'd call that a very small group and definitely users that wouldn't stay for Rob.
     
  12. RunnerFL

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    It's an average, says so right in the article.
     
  13. Herdfan

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    Teays...
    Are you saying you don't trust DirecTV DVR's? ;):lol:
     
  14. Earl Bonovich

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    Uh, the article says 2. "Terra Nova" (Fox: 10.1 million, 3.6). If that's an average it must be Live+whole year DVR ratings.

    I can't even find an airing of "Terra Nova" that did better than the pilot with 3.0. The fact is the "Terra Nova" finale pulled a 2.2/6 demo and a 7.240 total viewers. Here's that night's half-hour top two breakdown:

    8:00PM
    Fox "Terra Nova": 2.2/6 demo 7.23 total
    CBS "How I Met Your Mother Rerun": 2.1/6 demo 6.15 total

    8:30PM
    Fox "Terra Nova": 2.1/6 demo 7.25 total
    CBS "2 Broke Girls Rerun": 2.6/6 demo 7.20 total

    9:00PM
    Fox "Terra Nova": 2.1/5 demo 7.05 total
    CBS "Two and a Half Men Rerun": 2.3/6 demo 7.95 total

    9:30PM
    Fox "Terra Nova": 2.2/5 demo 7.18 total
    CBS "Mike and Molly Rerun": 2.2/5 demo 7.77 total

    The "Terra Nova" finale couldn't even beat a rerun of "Mike and Molly." It's pretty hard for me to criticize Fox for not renewing what appears to be an overpriced ratings dud.
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    Uhh, the article says:

    "You had Fox's "Fringe" getting renewed for a final GTFO season with only 4.2 million viewers and slight 1.6 average rating."

    It then compares that to Terra Nova's numbers. Why on earth would you compare an average to a number that's not an average?

    come on... Let's stop looking for reasons to crap on something around here.
     
  17. phrelin

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    The original comment said:
    I agreed with that because I assumed he was looking at the ratings in bold at the top of each paragraph as seen in this screenshot:

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    I can guarantee you those are not representative of the average ratings for those shows. I don't know what those ratings are as some are higher than the highest Live+same day rating the show got this season.

    But yes, the first paragraph did include the sentence you quote and then finished off with "Here are the top nine highest-rated canceled shows this season:" which seems to imply that the ratings in bold mean something. Maybe they do, I just don't know what.
     
  18. Earl Bonovich

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    Can we at least agree, that networks are not giving shows an adaquet chance to adjust and change based on consumer feedback?

    Shows are being canceled after 2 airings of the program.
    Shows are being canceled after a 13 episode run, then 6 month hiatus...

    If you apply these standards to some of the all time best shows, most of them would have been axed, and never had 7,8,9,10 season runs.
     
  19. phrelin

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    I agree, and I find it frustrating.

    I think Jeff Gaspin, former Chairman of NBC Universal Television Entertainment, best described in a NY Times article what's going on with the phrase "the cumulative effect of nonlinear viewing.” The networks are struggling as the article explains:
    In that article Gaspin described how he and his 13-year-old son watched a season of AMC's "Walking Dead" via streaming, recordings, etc., anything but live viewing.

    The problem is exacerbated by how businesses operate on a "how much did we make in the last five minutes" standard. That Times article includes an analysis:
    In 1958 when the broadcast network local channel prime time system became firmly established, no one paid attention to some financial analyst who points out "Idol" just isn't as good as NFL games for the bottom line. He simply doesn't care about the shows we like.

    Fox was the first to embrace this approach - I frequently call it "the sports and game show network" because they will simply risk the entire scripted lineup to cater to two dozen hours a year of well-watched sports programming even though all logic tells them they have to get viewers into another 500 hours a year of prime time programming.

    But I know that when I tell people "go buy a seat at the stadium" rather than crap up my viewing schedule, they don't respond well. Yet on occasion some of them are the same people who get upset when a show like "Terra Nova" can't get the running start needed to remain on the schedule. Initial episodes were aired for a couple of weeks then displaced with highly viewed (and according to financial analysts very profitable for that one calendar quarter) baseball playoffs and the World Series.

    Hence Gaspin's phrase "the cumulative effect of nonlinear viewing.”

    Right now we are paying to sustain the 1958 broadcast network local channel prime time system which is a dinosaur that somehow has survived the meteor strike of 21st Century technology. We need to end its suffering.
     
  20. dpeters11

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    Agreed. I can't imagine what would have happened to Star Trek TNG if they didn't make it to the third season.
     

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