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The Battle is on! My landlord now demands I remove my dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Lord Vader, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Dec 26, 2011 #821 of 1128
    mnassour

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    No, I don't think so. :D I already have during an HOA fight. And to be quite blunt, not one tenant out of a thousand knows about the FCC dish rules.

    There's something many of us don't understand...if you're presented with a contract for a lease, a purchase, or anything you do NOT have to accept it as is. Just mark through the sections you won't accept and initial that. This indicates to the other party that you're good to go, ready to sign, but NOT with the marked terms. It's then up to the other party to agree or reopen negotiations.

    My point is that I AM a supporter of dishes back as far as the C-Band days and have had an operating system myself since 1985.

    However....The desire/ability to slap down a landlord with the FCC really, really, really needs to take a back seat to the two working together. Not only a deposit is at stake, but also the tenant's dealings with future landlords. I've only once had to trash a tenant to another landlord who was asking for a reference.

    If a landlord tells a prospective landlord that a tenant took them to the FCC for a dish issue or, heaven forbid, took them to court, I promise you that the tenant in question will have a very, very difficult time finding the property they want in the future.

    Look, I don't mean to be cantankerous about this since I've had as many as five(!) dishes on my personal residence at once, much to the chagrin of my neighbors :lol:. But recommending to someone they file a complaint with the FCC before they at least try to work something out with the owner of the property is a sure fire way to cause many more problems than any television provider is worth.

    Naw, if I saw a dish that I had a problem with (meaning not properly installed, to code, etc.) I'd simply have the tenant remedy the problem. If the tenant refused, and if it was a major issue, I'd simply keep the entire deposit at the end of the term and not renew the lease. A minor issue, I'd probably blow off, it's not worth the hassle.

    But let me emphasize this: for a major issue, such as a major electrical fault that renders the installation dangerous, I would 1) first notify the tenant and 2) appear there myself with a contractor to remove any and all equipment that may be causing a hazard. OTARD gives no protection whatsoever to equipment that is improperly installed and is causing an imminent hazard.


    I'm talking about our Hall of Shame thread "honorees" here. I have no option but to do this in order to protect the property and those living within it. If any of you haven't seen it, check it out. It's one amazing thread!



    I repeat again....ask before you rent. Easy is better than hard.
     
  2. Dec 31, 2011 #822 of 1128
    Old_School

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    In my experiances with rental properties is that most private landlords are usually pretty easy going and will let you have a dish install. My current landlord thankfully is that way. When we looked at this place i took notice that there was a E dish installed. I kindly asked if he mind if i had D installed. He agreed to it as long as 1) his rubber roof was not touched and 2) his property was not the latest feature on our shame thread and 3) the dish was removed when we moved out. He also added that he would like the lines to be tied into the existing lines just so there would not have to be any more holes drilled. That was easy enough as they where the previous tennants E lines...

    Where i have come into issues is when we looked into renting at a complex. In the long run i can see why they throw a fit about it and i can also see the other side as to why someone would want satellite service. I do agree that OTARD is there but, it not something that you wanna slam in a new or ever old landlords face. It tends to make a bad situation for everyone more so for you if you ever decided to move.

    BTW, is there an update to where this is at?? im interested in the outcome :hurah:
     
  3. Dec 31, 2011 #823 of 1128
    trh

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    No one here suggested "Step 1 - File Petition with FCC". In the OP's case, he had a dish installed for years. And installed as directed by the apartment complex manager (attached to his deck railing). Then he was told "no dishes allowed." He worked with the local manager; showed her the OTARD; she sent it to her bosses who eventually backed down but had the OP change his installation to a non-pen mount on his deck. Which he did. But his apartment complex tells new tenants they aren't allowed to have a dish and if asked about LV's dish, they are told he is grandfathered in.

    In my personal cases (twice with the same HOA--almost three times (long story)), I spent almost a year exchanging emails with the local manager and her bosses in NC. I went to five board meetings. I gave them multiple copies of the OTARD. I provided them the name/phone number of a guy at the FCC who would verbally explain the situation (they had a pre-approval process, prohibited dishes on the front of a house and then wanted to charge for their pre-approval process). Yet they still insisted that they were responsible for maintaining a uniform look of the subdivision and had the right to approve dish locations and prohibit them on the front of a house. That is when I finally took it to the FCC. So I tried to work with them. I'm also in a different situation than the OP as I own and don't have to worry about getting my lease renewed.

    So even though you know it would be illegal, you'd insert that clause "if" you didn't want dishes because your tenants are ignorant of the FCC regulations? Lets both be glad you're not my landlord and I'm not your tenant. :D
     
  4. Dec 31, 2011 #824 of 1128
    trh

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    See LV's post #797 on this thread.
     
  5. Dec 31, 2011 #825 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    There are rumblings that have been occurring lately that might cause me to file a petition anyway. For spite.

    Presently happy with the leasing office I am not. :mad:
     
  6. Dec 31, 2011 #826 of 1128
    Drucifer

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    Until the LL changes their general policy, I expect you'll have repeating battles as the LL office will always quickly forget. Especially if there is any staff changes.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2011 #827 of 1128
    Carl Spock

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    Yoda? Is that you? Have you been seduced by the power of the Dark Side?
     
  8. Dec 31, 2011 #828 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    My current issue is only tangentially related to the dish battle. I'm awaiting final word from the property manager on something. Apparently, my recent battle over the dish has been interpreted by the two Community Life Architects (these are residents who organize the social stuff that goes on here) as my not projecting a positive image of the complex. To this I asked the property manager, "What more of a positive image can one project than to choose to live in a complex for over 13 years as I have here?"
     
  9. Dec 31, 2011 #829 of 1128
    Carl Spock

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    One freakin' minute.

    Because you wanted to keep DirecTV, and had to push the issue to get corporate's attention in order to make that happen, you are being accused by the party police of not being able to play well with others?

    I'd make a smart-ass remark but I am speechless!

    :eek:
     
  10. Dec 31, 2011 #830 of 1128
    P Smith

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    Life is short - I would cut leaving there and will move to some other place where all my antennas include 10' C-band wouldn't be in dangerous. Perhaps rent a house.
    The tension is become unbearable, by my feeling !
     
  11. Dec 31, 2011 #831 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    Kinda sorta. The two CLAs as they're called heard my rants and raves at the weekly bonfires/S'mores roasts. They also heard my bitching (as well as another resident's) about the prohibition of flying the U.S. Flag. This got back to the property manager (like I cared anyway, because I never thought the discussions were totally private), and she told me that they--the CLAs and she--didn't think I presented a positive image of the complex, and that they're looking for someone who conveys a positive, uplifting look of the place.

    So I guess living here for over 13 years and leaving good reviews on a couple apartment rental info sites isn't "positive," huh? :rolleyes:

    This was in response to my recently applying for a position here where instead of paying me and reporting taxes, they'd deduct the "earnings" from my rent every month. It was a situation where I'd be saving a few hundred bucks per month, which would be very helpful right now.
     
  12. Dec 31, 2011 #832 of 1128
    Drucifer

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    As you age, you will develop a thicker skin and not care what others think of you.

    The benefit - this seems to make them mo' bitter. Which kinda puts a small grin on my face.
     
  13. Dec 31, 2011 #833 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    Indeed. Having umpired for 34 years--21 at the NCAA level--and having been in sales for many years, then becoming a teacher, well...I'm kind of used to the abuse. :p
     
  14. Dec 31, 2011 #834 of 1128
    cabletech

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    LV Sorry to hear you still battling with the 'I do'nt care, this is the way it is" group. I would have thought it was all over, but sounds like having gone thru all the @#$%$, they now wish you were gone. Maybe time to have the attorney talk to them about a differant approch (discramation) to your living there.

    Course in my case I would not have lasted 1-2 years. Spending more then a very few hundred $$ a month to rent, I turn it into rent to own or a morage, then you only have yourself to worry about.

    Any way, good luck Happy New Year.
     
  15. Dec 31, 2011 #835 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    I don't really think they want me gone. They do like their residents to stay, even though their occupancy rate is consistently close to 100%. I just think it's a case of one of the CLAs in particular sticking it to me, especially after I bitched him out at the potluck dinner in November for screwing me over in a side dish judging contest. (That's a whole other story, and one in which even a fellow resident criticized him for his actions.)
     
  16. Dec 31, 2011 #836 of 1128
    Drucifer

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  17. Jan 18, 2012 #837 of 1128
    ccueball

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    I am an D* installer for 10 plus years. Love hearing someone stand up for their rights against ll's. I saw it addressed earlier in the post about grounding and in my professional oppinion there is no approved NEC ground available on any of those balconies. All the landlord has to do is say if it can't be installled to NEC code it can't be installed.
     
  18. Jan 18, 2012 #838 of 1128
    P Smith

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    Man ! What you did ? You made irreparable damage for all of us ! :(
     
  19. Jan 18, 2012 #839 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    But there IS approved NEC ground to the side of the building where my balcony is located. ;)
     
  20. Jan 18, 2012 #840 of 1128
    ccueball

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    A water spigot is not an approved ground and I am also guessing you are not allowed to run ground wire off of your balcony to access that ground.
     

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