The Corona Virus, What Will We Lose When It Ends?

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  1. Rich

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    It gets better, today we learn that 6 feet of separation is not enough. Which seemed pretty obvious when we found out a sneeze can project droplets 30 feet away from the sneezer. And another revelation, in an enclosed space droplets can stay in the air for quite some time. I have to wonder what is next. Facts would be good.

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  2. MysteryMan

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    Fact. If the Corona Virus doesn't get you something else will.
     
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    Not knowing the site, it's difficult to judge the perspective. It appears there's some type of AstroTurf inside a cinder running track. Assuming a quarter mile track there's probably more room between the groups of people than it appears in the picture.

    The majority (if not all) of the people in the picture are under the age of 55, so the overall odds of them dying from COVID-19 are very low. Can they catch COVID-19 and spread COVID-19 once they are infected? Yes on both accounts, no debating that point. They are outside getting some sun (most Americans are vitamin D deficient) and exercise (too many Americans are overweight and obese). As long as they are washing their hands before and after being in contact with others, I don't understand how the people in this picture are being disrespectful.

    COVID-19 is here and there's no indication that it's going to suddenly disappear. I can't imagine how long the entire world would have to be in hard lock-down for there to be zero cases of COVID-19. I hope we have a vaccine soon, but no one knows.

    Yes the virus is scary, yes it contagious, yes people do become ill from it, and yes people do die from it. It's not as contagious as polio, smallpox and rubella that have R nought values in the 5 to 7 range (I've seen reported an R nought value around 2.6 for COVID-19) and the case fatality rate is no where near Ebola's 50% rate.

    Shelter in place was never described as a way to stop COVID-19, it was advertised as a way to 'flatten the curve'. It was to help our health care facilities not become overwhelmed. In that regard it worked.
     
  4. Rich

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    I opened the mail this morning and found a prepaid debit card. Stimulus money. Money nobody knows about. Nobody in my family. Started plotting on how to spend it, got all worked up. I love "found" money. Never expected a penny from the government. Read the cover letter again. Hop on the computer to find the exact amount...$35. I'm so stimulated. I could just...:coldsweat:

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  5. billsharpe

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    The leaders or the circles????
     
  6. James Long

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    What government gave you $35? The stimulus should have been $1200 per adult, $500 per child paid via ACH (direct deposit) if the IRS has that information or eventually by check. The first to get their money were those who paid taxes or received refunds via ACH for 2018 or 2019 taxes. People who paid or received refunds via checks or other means (including refund advances) had to give the IRS ACH information. Or they are still waiting.

    $35 ... probably need to read the letter again and see where it came from.
     
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    The fees look like the regular foreign ATM fees I think. Using the card and getting cash back at Walmart, etc, should avoid any fees.
     
  9. trh

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    Not the whole story. A number of caveats if you make more than specific amounts and whether you filed single, head of household or married filing jointly.
    A guide to COVID-19 economic stimulus relief | Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

    Example: married filing jointly but AGI above $150,000: "If your adjusted gross income is above $150,000, you’ll receive an amount that will be reduced $5 for every $100 in adjusted gross income above $150,000." And if your AGI is above $198,000, you won't receive a payment.
     
  10. James Long

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    Ahh ... Most of the people I know don't make that much (and if they do, they have not told me their salary).

    A single person making $98,300 would work out to a $35 stimulus. A married couple making $197,300 would work out to a $35 stimulus. Children 17 and under and head of household would be able to make more money and still get $35. A child support federal garnishment would also reduce the payment.

    I need to make more friends with money so I know how the 6% feels. :)
     
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    Are you sure it is only $35.00? A friend got the full $1200.00 on the debit card. Almost threw it away because it looks like junk mail.
     
  12. trh

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    To get the full $1,200, your IRS taxes have to be 'single (or married filing separately) and make less than $75K AGI.
     
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    Mark Holtz

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    Yup, thus making me completely non-eligible. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
     
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    Mark Holtz

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    From ComingSoon.net:

    REPORT: AMC May Have to Shutter All Theater Locations
    FULL ARTICLE HERE
     
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    It seems social distancing shaming only applies to certain groups. Protesters laying within inches of each other is ok, but sitting close to someone on the beach is not. This is Portland OR
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    James Long

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    No, it is not OK - and nearly every newscast I have seen covering protests has mentioned the possibility of protest related spikes in the spread of the virus. I have even seen stories about how to protest safely, suggesting using noise makers and honking car horns instead of screaming protest chants.
     
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    MysteryMan

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    I have no problem with people protesting, even if I disagree with them as long as it's done "peacefully" in a orderly manner. But when people use protesting for looting, vandalizing, terrorizing and causing harm, injury and death to others I have no problem with our government whether it be at a local, state or federal level to take whatever action necessary to quell them and bring them to justice.
     
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    James Long

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    Not something we are going to dwell on here, but people who bring bricks and U-Hauls and no protest signs are not there for George Floyd or any other victim.
     
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    jimmie57

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    I tell my relatives that it is a good thing to have to pay more taxes. Means you are making more money.

    Of course this is not true if they raise the taxes and that is the reason you are paying more.
     

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