The Corona Virus, What Will We Lose When It Ends?

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  1. James Long

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    This weekend we are passing 25 million confirmed cases in the US ... and we passed 400 thousand deaths earlier in the week. There are areas of the country where the numbers are high. (Arizona, South Carolina, California, Rhode Island and New York states are at the top of the chart for the past seven days.) But the national numbers have dropped slightly. (Averaging 3000 deaths per day is still bad.) Seeing the 28 day average curve drop even slightly is encouraging.

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    One threshold we should pass this week (even if the statistics are slow to show progress) is to have more people vaccinated (first shot) that we have had confirmed cases in the US.


    In addition to the mass vaccination sites pharmacies in my area are mobilizing to give shots. For example:

    When Vaccines Roll Out in the U.S., Walmart Stands Ready to Serve
    10-15 million shots per month

    Register to get your free COVID-19 vaccinations at Meijer
    Pre-registration now available

    One thing to watch for is to make sure one is signing up through a reputable organization. Unfortunately there are bad people in this world who will take any opportunity to run a scam.


    My state (Indiana) has avoided most of the nightmare stories of people waiting in long lines for hours or even overnight to be vaccinated by having a registration system. The registration system was overwhelmed a couple of weeks ago when vaccinations became available to 70+ aged people. One issue found was communities where registration is difficult due to access to phones and internet and reliable transportation to make it to the appointment so the state has started using mobile clinics. One operated Saturday at a Mennonite church. Another is planned at a community center near low income housing projects on Thursday. Hopefully they will be well attended but not overwhelmed.

    My in-laws shots went well on Friday and they are per-scheduled for their second shot in three weeks.
     
  2. James Long

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    Los Angeles had their spike in December ... confirmed cases are beginning to drop there too:
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    Note the death per 100k population was below the national figures until the end of the year where Los Angeles surged ahead:
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  3. James Long

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    More vaccinations in 45 days than confirmed cases in over a year.
     
  4. b4pjoe

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  5. James Long

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    Weekly update as we pass 26 million confirmed cases. The number of new confirmed cases has been falling drastically.
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    The death rate has not experienced a drastic decrease.
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    The "excess death" numbers can also be updated as more death certificates for 2020 are processed and reported.
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  6. Carolina

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    My state has online registration for the vaccinations. I signed up, but have no idea when I'll get word back about actually getting the vaccination?

    I really wonder when/if we will ever return to the normal we lived before the virus showed up?
     
  7. James Long

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    With each state setting their own priorities and not knowing which state you're referring to (and what category you are in) it is hard to tell. My state (Indiana) started with heath care workers and has expanded into first responders and anyone over 70. Health care workers defined as people with "in-person contact with patients or infectious material" but the reality is most hospitals offered shots to any employee, regardless to patient or infectious material contact. Neighboring Michigan started with health care workers then over 65 and plan to include teachers among their essential workers (although the definition of essential is vague).

    I like North Carolina's sign up process ... you describe yourself and if you're not currently eligible you can sign up to be notified when the state opens up the category. With the availability of vaccines still in flux they (along with other states) don't want to predict when each category will open.

    I'm not expecting that level of normal until the end of the year. Where work at home is possible I wish that more employers would use it and continue use for a few more months. Restaurants, movie theaters, shopping without wondering if you're exposing yourself to the virus? That will take a while.
     
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    California opened up availability for 65+ a couple weeks ago. We finally managed to secure slots and get our first shot last week.
     
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    James Long

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    Weekly update - new confirmed cases falling, deaths not falling.
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    I just got a automated text from Kaiser to call in and find out my place in line. I am number 15,515. Maybe a couple weeks?
     
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    "It has become clear that coronavirus variants can slip past some of the immunity generated by vaccines and prior infections. The virus is here to stay — and scientists will have to remain vigilant. Vaccines may have to be updated, perhaps regularly. And the world will have to prepare for the possibility, even the likelihood, that over the long term, the novel coronavirus will become a persistent disease threat, albeit one that could eventually end up closer to the flu or the common cold." - from Variants mean the coronavirus is here to stay — but perhaps as a lesser threat, The Washington Post, February 9, 2021
     
  12. b4pjoe

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    I get my first vaccine shot tomorrow. Then wait 28 days to get the second one.
     
  13. James Long

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    Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

    However, vaccinated persons with an exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 are not required to quarantine if they meet all of the following criteria†:
    * Are fully vaccinated (i.e., ≥2 weeks following receipt of the second dose in a 2-dose series, or ≥2 weeks following receipt of one dose of a single-dose vaccine)
    * Are within 3 months following receipt of the last dose in the series
    * Have remained asymptomatic since the current COVID-19 exposure
    Persons who do not meet all 3 of the above criteria should continue to follow current quarantine guidance after exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19.


    So, 1st vaccinations in the US were December 14th ... Three weeks later was January 4th. That would make the first person "fully vaccinated" since January 18th and not required to quarantine (if asymptomatic) until April 18th. I expect the CDC will extend the three months if/when the science supports the extension.
     
  14. Carolina

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    I guess it depends on how fast your state is vaccinating? We don't even get numbers where I live.
     
  15. James Long

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    The CDC website has some numbers ... expected to be a couple of days behind, but every state listed including the number of vaccine shots assigned to the state, the number of shots given and the number of people who have received first and second shots.

    CDC | COVID Data Tracker

    Most states have a website with a dashboard. Name your state and we can help you look.
     
  16. James Long

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    Weekly Update ... cases continue to fall, deaths not falling.
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  17. phrelin

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    Well, we got our 2nd Moderna shot yesterday. I decided to get my shot in my dominant arm. Yesterday, had a little soreness, not much. Actually worried a bit because we were supposed to get a reaction from antibodies due to the first shot. However, by bedtime we quit worrying and are miserable today with "flu-like" symptoms aka really very mild Covid symptoms.
     
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    I'd rather have flu-like / mild Covid symptoms for a couple days than get the fullblown -put you in the hospital covid.
     
  19. James Long

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    Agreed.

    I know a family who had two members "not feel well" around Thanksgiving. Testing was difficult to find (one had to wait a day or two in their area) and I don't believe those two ever got tested. They got better and spent Chiristmas with extended family. The week after Christmas the rest of the original family (everyone except the first two) didn't feel well. They are still fighting whatever they have nearly two months later - and refuse to be tested. One of the families they spent Christmas with (masked and sitting in a separate room when eating) came down with COVID a couple weeks after Christmas. No proof of any link. Fortunately the grandparents didn't get sick (they are now getting their second shots).

    Flu is statistically non-existent this year due to precautions taken to stop the spread of COVID. 165 Flu related hospitalizations nationwide this season. One pediatric death this season. If someone has "influenza like illness" ... politely said, it isn't likely to be "the flu".

    Every once in a while I read a thread title and want to answer the question again. This thread is "What will we lose when it ends?"
    I have lost two coworkers, but I believe the biggest loss will be respect for people who don't take this seriously.
     
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    Weekly update ...
    Deaths are finally back down below 1900 per day (although we are about to cross the half million death total).
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