The Corona Virus, What Will We Lose When It Ends?

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  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    No apology needed.
    "People who have been fully vaccinated can resume activities that they did prior to the pandemic." CDC
     
  2. SledgeHammer

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    There was a clip on CNN about a doctors post that went viral. She is in Alabama and she said she had a healthy young person come in with a severe Covid infection that was begging for the vaccine as they were being intubated. She obviously had to say "too late now". A few days later as she called time of death, the family was crying saying they thought the whole thing was a political hoax.

    So yeah, I'll go with scooper on this one. If you refuse to get the vaccine, ymmv.

    All I'll say is that the spike in conspiracy theorists is "fairly recent" ;). Everybody wanted to get the polio vaccine, the flu vaccine, chicken pox, measles, etc.

    I wonder if these people would jump on a HIV vaccine or a cancer vaccine?
     
  3. James Long

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    I drafted a well thought out response but DBSTalk is not a political forum. Suffice it to say that I don't see mistrust of the government as a recent problem. This is not the place to discuss when a "spike" occurred.

    ("The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Ronald Reagan, August 12, 1986.)
     
  4. Mark Holtz

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    If someone comes up to me and asks "Is it over?", the answer I have to give is "No, not by a long shot." I do believe that things are getting better, but we are still going to see the long term effects, including economic effects, for years to come. The supply chain and logistics are still hiccupping. They still require masks on planes and trains. Some places are still enforcing a reduced capacity. The "six weeks to flatten the curve" has turned into eighteen months and counting. And some businesses simply could not survive.

    They say hindsight is 20/20. It will be interesting to note what worked, and what didn't work. That won't happen for another few years.
     
  5. SledgeHammer

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    Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? Covid will end up having a similar (but opposite) effect. Hopefully.

    There HAS been some positive stuff to come out of Covid.

    "The Great Resignation" for one. Many folks have been escaping their "abusers". Many companies that previously wouldn't consider WFH people have now opened up to that, so people like myself were able to switch from "F-" companies to "A+" companies. Not only on salary, but bonuses, benefits, class of co-workers/managers, treatment of employees, etc. Oh yeah, and of course, actual success of the company :D. You can always spot a "great" company when the managers are extremely arrogant, but the company is not successful by any measurable metric :rolleyes:.
     
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  6. James Long

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    I am starting to see a rebound at work. One person told a coworker friend that they were bored at home. Now everyone is suspect. Management wants to see butts in seats. Any question of productivity is turned in to if an at home person is motivated and monitored as well as an at office person.

    The double edge sword of being 100% at home is anyone else can do the job 100% at home. Perhaps someone living in a cheaper city or better time zone for after hours? There can be a benefit for the employed if the job pool is limited to those who could show up in person.

    I agree that more businesses have embraced 100% work from home. But I see a rebound coming.
     
  7. SledgeHammer

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    Well, don't get me wrong, I'd rather be in an office. Although it would take some getting used to after almost 2 yrs lol. Couldn't wear sweats all day lol.

    I'm a software engineer, so we have daily stand up meetings where you have to state what you're working on / progress, etc. Plus your status shows up on Slack lol. Would be hard for a slacker (no relationship to Slack) to hide for long.

    At my ex-employer we had SO MANY slackers it was unbelievable. We had 3 or 4 guys who would walk around all day hitting on chicks, we had a group of people who would hang out in the breakroom all day, take 10 smoke breaks, 2 hour lunches, come in late, leave early. We had a guy who would watch movies at his desk all day, one day after he went home, his movie started playing loudly for some reason and he got fired the next day. One aisle over from my group was another group. They were the WORST. The 2 guys would stand around chatting for 2 - 3 hours a day. The girl in that group was also a chatter box. She'd randomly bring over other girls from various groups and they'd chat for an hour or 2. One time she literally had 10 people at her desk hooping and hollering. We also had a manager who would make obscene personal phone calls ALL DAY (literally for 8 hrs), work on all his personal projects, etc.

    I've told some people about all the stuff that the slackers did there and they don't believe it. They ask "a manager made offensive personal phone calls in a loud booming voice for 8 hours a day for 15 yrs? And nobody complained and he never got fired? Yeah right!" -- well, it's true... and yes people complained all the time, but the director didn't care since that was his drinking buddy. Finally a few years ago, I guess some higher ups got wind of "phone guy" so they held a gun to the directors head to finally cut him lose.

    Another obvious point was that the director COULDN'T care... he was cheap as .... so if he fired all the slackers, there would be very few people left and he (still) can't fill any open reqs because he doesn't want to pay people or give bonuses and the benefits there are non existent. So he has to allow slackers lol.
     
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    An article up on TMZ today is reporting that NFL coach Rick Dennison got fired today because he refused the vaccine. This was following a report yesterday that the NFL has instituted HEAVY fines if a team has a covid outbreak or causes any issues due to lack of vaccination. I don't watch sports, but I'm glad to see the NFL is taking this stance and fired him. He's in a close quarters job, near the public, etc. Hope to see more companies and industries take this hard line stance so we can finally get rid of this thing!
     
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  9. James Long

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    Last fall the NFL redefined "face mask penalty". Fans want sports where their teams play their games.
     
  10. Mark Holtz

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    From ESPN:

    Rick Dennison out as Minnesota Vikings assistant after refusing COVID-19 vaccine, sources say
    FULL ARTICLE HERE

    From NFL:

    NFL informs clubs that COVID-19 outbreaks among unvaccinated players could lead to forfeited games
    FULL ARTICLE HERE
     
  11. Kamui

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    people will stop use internet a lot. I can not say that I was so addict to internet but use it for work. Plus often use phone and call recorder app during income calls from partners.
     
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  12. scooper

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    Complete sentances please ?
     

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