the DirecTV channel lineup update thread.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Willh, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. Jun 17, 2018 #61 of 258
    CraigerM

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    Could a cable channel replace one of those shopping or infomercial channels that are paying to be on the lineup?
     
  2. Jun 17, 2018 #62 of 258
    KyL416

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    If they're willing to pay for it like FETV, Scientology, Newsmax, INSP, MavTV and RT did, yes.
     
  3. Jun 17, 2018 #63 of 258
    CraigerM

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    I was also wondering is the reason they haven't merged the DTV and UVerseTV channel lineups yet is does DirecTV consider the UVerseTV channels it doesn't have low rated ones? Or is it really not simple and they still have to have to separate channel contracts, one for IPTV and one for SatelliteTV and they simply can't just amend the UVerseTV channel contracts to run on DirecTV? Then if they did get rid of UVerseTV could DirecTV still keep those channels? It would still be better just to have separate channel contracts? Also they if they got rid of UVerseTV they wouldn't have to add the UVerseTV channels it didn't have they would just go with DirecTV channel lineup. Thanks.
     
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  4. Jun 17, 2018 #64 of 258
    James Long

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    Amending contracts is a touchy thing. If DIRECTV wants to pay the higher rates AT&T typically paid for carriage I am sure that the content providers would accept it. For channels that DIRECTV negotiators rejected because the content providers asked too much that would not be a good decision.

    The push is to have contracts that cover all the distribution methods. They may not get the same price for a streaming subscriber as they get for a satellite subscriber even when the contracts are combined - but being able to leverage 25 million subscribers makes the deal better for AT&T|DIRECTV.
     
  5. Jun 17, 2018 #65 of 258
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    At some point AT&T will announce it is shutting down Uverse TV, and they'll try to migrate their customers to Directv - most likely to the "Directv via IP" product coming end of this year.

    If they believed any of the channels on Uverse TV that aren't on Directv would cause enough customers to say "you don't have channel X, I'm going to Comcast instead" they'd add it.

    All those channels that are on Uverse but not Directv are channels Directv could have added at any time in the past if they had wanted to. They either decided they didn't like the terms or just weren't interested in the channel at all. I don't see any reason why they'd change their mind.
     
  6. Jun 19, 2018 #66 of 258
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    Music choice apps show up today.
     
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  7. Jun 19, 2018 #67 of 258
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    Very cool!!!

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  8. Jun 21, 2018 #68 of 258
    CraigerM

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    With DTV having the latest movies downloaded to the hard drive do we really need all those DirecTV cinema channels from 125 to 201? Could those be freed up to add more channels and more 4k channels?
     
  9. Jun 21, 2018 #69 of 258
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    Yes, they're still needed:

    Channels 127, 129 and 130 are the permanent HD Cinema channels
    Channels 126, 128 and 131-155 are filler and are only active when they're not in use for part time HD channels like sports, private network broadcasts and PPV Events
    Channels 156-171 are placeholders that will eventually be replaced by actual HD channels.
    Channel 172 is a seasonal HD Cinema channel that's only available from October-March when it's not in use for the MLB Game Mix.
    173-196 are the SD ones which will likely be going away entirely with the shift to all MPEG4. (There is no more pushed movies for SD subscribers)


    Also, they don't need to reclaim bandwidth for 4K, they haven't even started using the reverse band yet for the 4K channels we currently have:
    104 DTV4K is on D10 TPN 4
    105 CINE4K is on D10 TPN 6
    106 LIVE4K is on D10 TPN 2
    9800, which is likely only for retail displays, is on D10 TPN 13
    The pushed content for 4K on demand is on D10 TPN 10
     
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  10. Jun 21, 2018 #70 of 258
    CraigerM

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    Do you know what channels 156 to 171 will have? Also what do you think they will do with channels 173-196?
     
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  11. Jun 21, 2018 #71 of 258
    KyL416

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    Nothing, they'll just shuffle things around like they have been doing with the Cinema channel range for years or leave them vacant. A few years ago the range was this:
    126-165 HD Cinema
    166-194 SD Cinema
    195-197 Adult PPV
    198 SD Cinema Stunts (Blocks of themed movies for one price)
    199 SD Cinema Discount (Older movies that were only $1.99)

    Eventually they moved Adult PPV to the 580s, removed channels 197-199, and bumped up the range of the SD Cinema channels to 173 to make room for more HD Cinema placeholders. When HD Cinema channels are reclaimed for actual HD channels, it leaves gaps in the HD Cinema range so every once in a while they reshuffle them to consolidate the remaining channels. The last reshuffle was a few months ago when they lit up the new HD Cinema placeholders on channels 156-171 from D14 and moved the rest of the part time cinema channels to the gaps below that.
     
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  12. Jul 21, 2018 #72 of 258
    CraigerM

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    I forgot if this has been brought up before but does anyone know how they are going to do the channel contracts for the DTV over IP service that may launch this Fall? How can they have all the DTV channels and all the locals when they don't have all them for DTV NOW? Is it because of the name? I guess they need all new channel contracts for DTV NOW and with DTV its easier because they can just amend those to run on both SatelliteTV and IP?
     
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  13. Jul 22, 2018 #73 of 258
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    I dont know all the details on how it works but when bell atlantic was testing iptv they had more channels In HD via iptv then they had via QAM. Over 40 additional channels were HD that they did not have on traditional QAM service..


    One drawback to IPTV is that some POS Cable broadband providers have monthly limits like 1TB. So imagine a customer consuming lots of IPTV they would hit the limit .

    Unfortunately not everyone has access to FTTH and some have to suffer with POS cable broadband .

    I did make another thread and I think when a customer experiences 771 for more than 30 seconds or so IPTV would be a good backup until the 771 goes away .

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  14. Jul 23, 2018 #74 of 258
    CraigerM

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    Sorry I should have said unmanaged IPTV.
     
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  15. Jul 24, 2018 #75 of 258
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    i think IPTV will be the future ..

    cable cos are trying to move to IPTV .. Comcast and Cox both have IPTV plans.
    Bell Atlantic tested it

    so i can see more IPTV by like 2020 or 2021 . again the issue comes with broadband providers and there monthly data caps .
     
  16. Jul 25, 2018 #76 of 258
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  17. Jul 25, 2018 #77 of 258
    JoeTheDragon

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    managed IPTV hell they can use that to force all subs to rent an gateway even internet only ones.
     
  18. Jul 25, 2018 #78 of 258
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    Thanks kyL416,some new HD channel?


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  19. Jul 26, 2018 #79 of 258
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    Will the Accuweather be better.
     
  20. Jul 26, 2018 #80 of 258
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    I hope so. With WeatherNation this summer has been awfully hot and humid ... :kissingsmiling:
     

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