The Genie -- Is it worth it?

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  1. ejbvt

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    The clients actually provide fewer tuners in your case. They are effectively just mirrors of one of the tuners in the main Genie unit. But they still cost the $7/month. It uses one of the Genie tuners to record and everything. The only benefit that I can see to the client is if you have an AM21 OTA unit attached, it will bring those channels to each TV and you won't have to have a separate AM21 at each location. That is IT. You will be MUCH better off with a HR44 or HR54 and keeping your HR24s. The interface differences people are talking about aren't really that significant, but they are there. They give you a new remote with the Genie unit, too. If you hate it, the old remote will still work for the new unit in IR mode. I have been doing that for many years. The new one is tiny and has tiny and cumbersome buttons. I also like the old remote because it also controls my TV and AVR quite well and the new ones do not.

    Note: A client is the only way to get 4K, but I am assuming you are not looking into 4K as you did not mention it. To get 4K, you must get a HR54 and replace the receiver at the 4K TV with the 4K client. You can also get a HS17 server and every TV will have a client. I wouldn't do that in a million years.
     
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  2. b4pjoe

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    There are people that like the new GUI better than the old one.
     
  3. Rich

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    Who? Serious question. Who could love/like that monstrosity? Someone that never had a 24?

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  4. b4pjoe

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    Me for one and I have used the 24's.
     
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  5. inkahauts

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    I have no real issue with it. It’s as lacking as the HR24 is....
     
  6. Rich

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    What's "lacking" in the 24's GUI? The floating box?

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  7. slice1900

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    The other potential benefits of clients are: they are smaller (possible to hide behind a wall mounted TV) and there are wireless clients available if you have or want to place a TV in a location where you cannot run coax to it. Can't do that with an HR24.
     
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  8. RAD

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    Back in the good old days, for testing purposes I had four Genie's installed, a H44 with hard drive, HR44, HR54 and a HS17, so that's a ton of tuners. Between the H44HD, HR44 and HR54 I liked the H44HD the best, it was small, ran quiet and cool and was very small but very fast. But when AT&T's internal systems started to not allow any account changes if you had more Genie I ended up removing everything except the HS17. In the couple years that I've had this configuration there has not been one day where I didn't have DIRECTV service duet the HS17 failing (except for self inflicted pain doing CE testing).

    So now I have three C61K's and three C61W and all are running just fine. One of the C61W's I've used velcro to mount the box and power supply to the back of the TV so all I have it one power cord showing to the TV on the wall. The speed of the C61W's is just as fast as the wired C61K's. I will say the C41W's I had were a bit slower but the C61W's are great.

    The one BIG grip I have with the HS17 is the lack of LCC support. I got bit by the last retransmission dispute causing two locals to go black for almost 2 months. But on the plus since I like having one place to keep all my recordings scheduled, not more which DVR has what schedule.
     
  9. Getteau

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    The only benefit I have found with the mini's is that they are easy to stick behind a wall mount TV. We have a few wall mount TV's that really don't have a place for a DVR. The mini's are nice for that install. Otherwise, I avoid them at all costs.
     
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  10. kevinwmsn

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    The lack of LCC and can't have other gear besides minis have stopped me from getting a HS17. Shouldn't Direct come with a new box that would support more than 1 4K stream? I know channels are limited now, but shouldn't it grow in the next couple of years?
     
  11. slice1900

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    I'm sure we'll see something to handle more than two 4K streams (the HS17's limit is 2, the HR54's is 1) when we start seeing real 4K channels. We just don't have any idea when or even if they will appear. Still not even a rumor about a 4K HBO, ESPN or FS1, and no doubt if such a channel was coming there would be press releases announcing it far and wide. This isn't something they'd be looking to keep a secret.

    As for whether that's a successor to the HS17 or a software change that allows the HS17 to handle more than two 4K streams at once (if this isn't some sort of hardware limitation) I guess we'll have to wait and see.
     
  12. JoeTheDragon

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    There may need an need for an non DVR box for 4K Commercial use. There are 4K Matrix Switches out there.
     
  13. bmetelsky

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    I like it better and I've had both.

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  14. BrendanJ

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    Don't really see much of difference between the hr20 and the hr24 and I've have had all of them, but to each their own. Currently using a THR22, HR54, HR24, two wireless clients, and a 4k client connected via cable(the only way).
     
  15. mrknowitall526

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    Me! I've gotten used to it and it's much better IMO. Easier to get to upcoming recordings list, the floating box is quite handy, the season/episode number (which is NOT on the 24 GUI), it's really quite fast and fluid on my HR44, etc.

    The new GUI really is a shadow of its former self when it was first introduced and had all those problems.

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  16. TheRatPatrol

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    I like it better too, for those reasons. Easier to get to manage recordings. I like the breakdown of recordings by category on the left side of the screen, I like being able to press list>0 to sort in alphabetical order, the mini guide has two channels instead of one. The only thing I don’t like is the progress bar and the layout of the menu screens, those are better on the HR24.
     
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  17. slice1900

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    Possibly, but I think supporting a HS17s (or follow on) and clients would be more likely. They'd just deactivate the DVR service on commercial accounts. Their current solution for commercial 4K is one HR54 + C61K per TV, and the HR54's DVR service is disabled. At least with HS17 + clients it would be simpler and more cost effective.

    There is also the COM3000, but that's more of a solution for bigger venues or institutional use like hotels or hospitals. It wouldn't be reasonable for a 2000 sq ft bar with 6 TVs, it would be overkill and expensive.
     
  18. Rich

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    There is no difference in the GUIs of the 24s and the HR20s.

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    Yeah, if they fixed the Progress Bar thing it would be a lot better.

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  20. inkahauts

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    Minis don’t have the progress bar on skip...
     
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