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The great OTA debate

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by gcisko, Oct 18, 2007.

Do you want/need OTA

  1. YES

    0 vote(s)
  2. NO - I am good to go

    449 vote(s)
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  1. Oct 18, 2007 #1 of 356

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

    Sep 27, 2006
    There was such an uproar over the lack of OTA on the HR21 that someone suggested a poll. So here it is. Black and white:

    YES I need/want OTA
    NO I am good to go

    Cheers :D
  2. Oct 18, 2007 #2 of 356

    Sirshagg Hall Of Fame

    Dec 29, 2006
    $300 for a receiver with OTA
    $300 for a receiver without OTA

    Otherwise both receivers are effectively the same.

    DUH!!! I'll take the one with OTA capability whether I need it now or not.
  3. Oct 18, 2007 #3 of 356

    MikeR Hall Of Fame

    Oct 5, 2006
    No OTA required here.
    (1) I get my locals from Directv, and not interested in the bandwidth hogging subchannels
    (2) The local terrain would require one of those 10000' cable runs to a 500' antenna.
  4. Oct 18, 2007 #4 of 356

    raott Hall Of Fame

    Nov 23, 2005
    Voted yes to OTA requirement.

    Louisville DMA#48 still doesn't have HD locals, plus way too many tornado warnings in the spring (and one this morning) to rely on locals through D* 100% of the time.
  5. Oct 18, 2007 #5 of 356

    Splendor Legend

    Apr 17, 2007

  6. Oct 18, 2007 #6 of 356

    Tmax88 AllStar

    Oct 2, 2006
    OTA needed. Most of my series links are set to OTA because the picture looks better. It's even more noticeable watching sports. Besides, until PBS-HD is available, OTA is a must!
  7. Oct 18, 2007 #7 of 356

    rsblaski Icon

    Jul 6, 2003
    Southern Nevada
    But if I do not need OTA (and I don't), even if the manufacturing cost of the hr21 is lower, hopefully the increased revenue from h/w will help to offset any need for D* to raise the cost of service which is the real price that we pay. For instance, if D* charged $50 less for the hr21 but then had to raise the sub rates by $5 a month, any savings on the purchase of the hr21 would disappear after 10 months. Conversely, if the price was the same as the hr20 and rates were not raised, after 10 months I would have recovered the $50 and begin to save on the lower rate.
    I think we all know that some day D* will have to raise sub rates, but if they can offset some of that need by higher profit on h/w, maybe the increase in rates can be delayed or minimized.
  8. Oct 18, 2007 #8 of 356

    eibook Legend

    Jan 5, 2007
    You Betcha! Lin owns my local CBS station!
  9. Oct 18, 2007 #9 of 356
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    I enjoy having OTA and do use it for locals that are not shown in HD over DIRECTV, but I don't "need" it, as I do get 5 locals over satellite.
  10. Oct 18, 2007 #10 of 356

    ATARI Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2007
    Don't need (nor am I using) OTA.

    So if anyone wants to trade a black HR21 for a silver HR20, let me know ;)
  11. Oct 18, 2007 #11 of 356

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

    Sep 27, 2006
    And you voted how? I Purposely made only 2 choices :D
  12. Oct 18, 2007 #12 of 356

    Indiana627 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 18, 2005
  13. Oct 18, 2007 #13 of 356

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    I voted NO, I'd put the money into a Media Center PC, which will do my OTA DVRing, which BTW, once Video is setup in the software HR2x's I can forward to the HR2x...the OTAs I'm interested in are already spot beamed to me, so it really doesn't matter. Plus, I've wired my house so that all the televisions have an antenna inputted to them...multiple-redundancy:eek2:
  14. Oct 18, 2007 #14 of 356

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD

    I really hope DirecTV doesn't price its products this way. A company is supposed to maximize profit by keeping costs down while charging the optimum for its product. The optimum is based upon ability to sell versus the price. Cost is not supposed to be associated to the price of a product. If you cannot sell a product for more than it costs you, you do not have a viable business.

    This means that if DirecTV could get away with charging double what it does today without impacting its revenue stream, they would/should do so to be a well-run business.
  15. Oct 18, 2007 #15 of 356

    bt-rtp Icon

    Dec 29, 2005
    • Source for viewing a program on TV while recording two others on DVR
    • To get programming from other areas and DMAs
    • Rain faid avoidance for local in local (LIL) networks
    • High quality, non-compressed HD sources
    • Alternative for pre-empted local programming on ATSC main (.1) & the sub-channels versus the nationals out of New York and Los Angeles
      • I.e High School Football and local events
    • For some TVs with internal ATSC tuners, a second guide source (TV guide)
  16. Oct 18, 2007 #16 of 356

    dbmaven Icon

    May 29, 2004
    From another thread loosely based on the same topic/theme:

    I'll take 2 Black HR21's please. Hold the OTA.
  17. Oct 18, 2007 #17 of 356

    machavez00 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 2, 2006
    I have three local HD stations that are not carried by D*, like everyone, PBS, My Network and the CW. Until those are carried I have a need for OTA.
  18. Oct 18, 2007 #18 of 356
    Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    Just a thought but I am wondering if DirecTV may just ship the H21 and HR21 to markets that do have locals in HD through DirecTV.

    If this would be the case that would prevent someone receiving one that can only receive their HD locals via OTA.

    BTW I voted no. Getting my HD locals through DirecTV was a big plus for me because I don't like using OTA and I think my MPEG4 HD locals look just as good as when I had a OTA hooked up.
  19. Oct 18, 2007 #19 of 356

    steve053 Godfather

    May 11, 2007
    Voted yes for 2 reasons:

    1) Still no local CBS in HD for SE WI
    2) It's really nice to have the local PBS in HD, as well as the ability to use OTA when the weather is mucking up the DBS signal
  20. Oct 18, 2007 #20 of 356

    Koz Icon

    Sep 16, 2006
    Don't need it, but want it, so I voted yes. And I only want it in the main room because my apartment has an antenna on the roof with a connection there. My HR21 is perfect for the bedroom.

    And if/when I move, I don't think I'll be putting up an antenna. But the OTA for PBS is nice for the handful of times I've watched it.
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