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The GREEN Thread

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Nick, May 4, 2009.

  1. May 6, 2009 #21 of 125
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    i'm not green. i have no interest in "green technology" either.

    i hate CFL's.

    i do however turn off everything that is not being used. When my house is empty, there is nothing left on except clocks and the A/C. When we're in bed, nothing is on except my bathroom light at full dim; same in my son's room. and that's not to be green; its just to save money.
     
  2. May 6, 2009 #22 of 125
    Matt9876

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    They are really just a stepping stone till they get LED lighting to work properly.

    The newest most promising one looks like this,Output light same as 75 watt bulb but only pulls 8 watts of power.:)

    [​IMG]
     
  3. May 6, 2009 #23 of 125
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    This item is on Woot today and well worth the investment for any pool people.
     
  4. May 6, 2009 #24 of 125
    Chris Blount

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    Agree. I'm holding out for LED lighting.
     
  5. May 6, 2009 #25 of 125
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    Congrats. Now if you had only read the first post about ideas, etc.
     
  6. May 6, 2009 #26 of 125
    paulman182

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    Actually, Steve's post has done some good. He's inspired me to look around and find new ways to save to make up somewhat for those who don't care about "green," either environmentally or the green we put in our pockets.

    Even those who ignore the first won't be able to ignore the second forever.
     
  7. May 6, 2009 #27 of 125
    Chris Blount

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    Dang dude. If nothing else I wouldn't want your A/C bill.

    I personally don't do "green" either but I'm also FOR a bit of common sense conservation and saving money on my bills. Who wouldn't be against that?
     
  8. May 6, 2009 #28 of 125
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    Here is a question I have regarding light bulbs. I know there has been some talk of banning conventional bulbs. WE have several fixtures that use clear globes and use clear bulbs as part of the deoration. Will I and how ever many millions of others just be SOL with those and have to use an exposed CFL in there?

    With "green" stuff in general I agree 100% about not going overboard, but some of the easiest changes to make give the individual as much or more benefit in reduced energy costs than the actual green aspect of it. So, you can do it purely for selfish reasons if you want to. ;)
     
  9. May 6, 2009 #29 of 125
    Chris Blount

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    I was wondering that myself. When we had our house built 5 years ago, the builder bragged about energy conservation but at the same time they installed rows and rows of clear light bulbs in each bathroom that suck up 60 watts each. We took out half of them to save energy but I have to wonder if there are going to be light bulbs in the same style with LED light. I hope so.
     
  10. May 6, 2009 #30 of 125
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    You can get globe shaped CFL's but they will be white not clear.
     
  11. May 6, 2009 #31 of 125
    houskamp

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    I don't worrry about the bathroom.. mine has 6 40w globes plus another 100w fixture.. They just aren't on very much and a lot of the time I have them dimmed down.. That room needs a ton of light :)
    The biggest savings I feel are in the stuff that's on all the time.. livingroom lights, tvs, refridgerators..
     
  12. May 6, 2009 #32 of 125
    phrelin

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    We have changed every fixture to CFL/LED that it would be both possible and aesthetically reasonable to do so, but so far we have not been able to find anything green that will fit in any of our fan related fixture (vent, ceiling) we have and forget decorative fixtures needing special shapes.

    If my grandkids want to remodel the house replacing these fixtures with ones that in 2020 will have been designed to fit in a decor and that use green bulbs, great!

    And just like with incandescent bulbs, the CFL manufacturers' reported life for these things is a big lie which means the manufacturer's waste problems and the used bulb disposal problem are going to be far worse than anticipated. Hopefully, LED's will solve this but I haven't explored related manufacturing waste and disposal problems.

    Limiting activities that require decent lighting to days and hours that have adequate sunlight is a solution, of course, just as limiting people's movements to walking is a solution to the travel related emissions problems. Both would result in near stone age activity.
     
  13. May 6, 2009 #33 of 125
    Phil T

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    My kids have moved out of the house which is saving me a bunch on my electric bill, food bill, water bill etc. :)

    Not sure it is helping the environment any.

    Actually I try and do my part to cut back on water and heating costs. I have a new gas fireplace insert that heats the main floor and keeps the furnace from running. The furnace thermostat is never set above 67 degrees when we are home. 62 when we are not. But we have been doing this for years!!

    I am old enough to have watched the recycling and greening craze come and go a couple of times. I watched everyone go solar in the 70's and 80's and tear it all out in the 90's. I drove a CNG powered truck for work in the 80's and always felt like I was driving a bomb.

    Remember when every one had Ford Falcons and Chevy Corvairs, Then Pintos and Vegas. Then Chevettes and Escorts. They all bought Hummers and Suburbans in the 90’s.

    This seems to go in phases, and when the economy recovers, they will all be driving big boats again.
     
  14. May 6, 2009 #34 of 125
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    Personally I'd rather be comfortable then have a few excess dollars. I love the cold, and believe me if my A/C unit could go below 60 it would be set colder. The whole house doesn't have A/C, I have a Kenmore window unit in my bedroom, I have it installed for 3-4 months, the extra it costs to run it is well worth it. In the summer at work it gets 120+ degrees, I wear long sleeves and pants, after 10-11 hours baking I deserve the coldest air I can get. In the winter when it's ten degrees out I drive into work with the heat on and windows open. I like it cold, when the air gets to be so frigid that your lungs hurt after inhaling the outside air, that's when it's perfect.

    No amount of money savings can make me go green, besides not give a crap about the environment, the great thing about money is every Wednesday at midnight more gets depsited into my bank account. If I enjoyed the way CFL lights look or like driving a rollerskate and siting a foot from the road I'd make some changes, but I don't, so I'll stick with what I like
     
  15. May 6, 2009 #35 of 125
    Richard King

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    The tooth fairy? ;)
     
  16. May 7, 2009 #36 of 125
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    I had a go-round with Steve on a very similar subject some months ago. The idea that a lot of that money goes to terrorist groups and/or their supporters doesn't seem to mean too much.

    I don't get some of the attitude. Especially about recycling (though I agree about not going overboard). As an example, our town saved enough money on our trash-removal budget from recycling projects that they accelerated road repairs and our taxes stayed level. So that's a *real* benefit.

    On average, I save about 200 gallons of gas per year driving my Camry instead of my old Intrepid. That's a couple HUNDRED dollars in my pocket instead of someone else's - and I guaran-damn-tee you that my car is far more maneuverable than a hulking SUV so I'm more likely to AVOID an accident than get in one (and I save on insurance for that as well). Yet I still can do a day-trip to New York City with 4 passengers in pretty good comfort.
     
  17. May 7, 2009 #37 of 125
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    I traded in my 18 MPG gas guzzler three years ago for one that gets 34 MPG.

    This crossover car seats four comfortably and still has room for a weeks worth of groceries.

    My wallet and the environment both got a needed break.:)
     
  18. May 7, 2009 #38 of 125
    Steve Mehs

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    My town has no recycling program, I don't buy items with a deposit so I can get my whole nickel back and I'm not so inclined to save a bunch of junk for weeks and go to a recycling center, where ever one may be.

    Good for you!

    And I guaran-damn-tee you that little Toy would have been totaled if you hit the deer I hit with my Mountaineer last summer.

    Riding a foot from the ground and being able to feel every dime you drive over is not something I'd consider comfortable, but whatever. That's why we live in America, we have choice, even though people like you want to restrict them, this is still America. So quite frankly your opinions are irrelevant to my existence, thank you very much.
     
  19. May 7, 2009 #39 of 125
    Richard King

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    I haven't seen anyone in this thread say that they wanted to restict your choices or anyone else's choices. Could you point out to me where that was done, please? Thank you very much. ;)
     
  20. May 7, 2009 #40 of 125
    Steve Mehs

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    It's in the undertones.
     

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