The HD rumormill - Tues or Wed?

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  1. Fl_Gulfer

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    I told you that you would see a couple in the morning it may have been 1 am and only for 3 hours but they were full res.
     
  2. BreezeCJ

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    Last night I was watching the UCLA v. Washington game on channel 647 (Fox Sports Midwest), and in the channel guide listing it was was showing the 'HD' icon along with 'High-Def' in the description. Alas, the show was still in SD.

    A harbinger of things to come?
     
  3. jburroughs

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    This was either a guide error or a Fox Sports error. D* just retransmits what it receives. We will receive in HD whatever the provider sends out.
     
  4. bwaldron

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    It was on in HD on channel 94. Just a guide data issue. Those have been going on for a few years, actually, on some SD channels with HD counterparts.
     
  5. Fl_Gulfer

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    They should be lighting up at 6 am Wed. 26
     
  6. lwilli201

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    That game was on Channel 94 in HD.
     
  7. Spike

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    So true, and who knows if he meant that yesterday, but freedom of speech allowed him to change that to something else today making what he says today more true than what he said yesterday. But oh well, integrity is not everyone's strong suit.
     
  8. Keeska

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    Nothing silly about it. 1080i is, by definition 1920 x 1080. Anything less is, well, less or lite. That is the fact. No comment on how it looks but it is down-rez, not real HD so it needs a name. HD-lite is as good as any.
     
  9. Keeska

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    The only cables which have failed on me (other then the ones the cat bit through) have been Monster. Everything else from the bottom of the line Radio Shack up to real quality (at 1/10 the price of the Monster) have not failed for me.
     
  10. luckydob

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    Okay, so you have your definition. Take it or leave it.
     
  11. Keeska

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    It is not my definition. It is the industry standard 1080i. Read the spec if think it is mine. I do not see any down-rez 1080i HD mentioned but will gladly change my statement if you show me where I missed it.
     
  12. luckydob

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    Is 1280x720 HD for you? By definition this is HD. So D* HD is HD, not HD-Lite as you would call it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Standard_video_res.svg
     
  13. bwaldron

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    Depends. If it is progressive, then yes.
     
  14. Keeska

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    It has nothing to do with me. 720p is 1280x720 pixels just like 1080i is 1920x1080 pixels.

    I am assuming you are objecting to down-rez 1080i being called HD-Lite. I didn't invent this name and don't really care what people call it. Just don't try to pass it off as 1080i HD. If Dish or DirecTV down-rez'ed 720p to 1024x720 pixels that would be HD-Lite also. The point is information is being lost in the down-rez. There is no way you can maintain the same resolution using 1280 or 1440 or whatever pixels per line is being transmitted when the original source has 1920 per line.

    Now if you didn't notice I specifically said I have no comment on the perceived quality of 1920x180 vs 1440x1080 vs 1280x1080. (I don't take sides in the 720p vs 1080i debate either.) Whether the difference between 1080i and HD-Lite can be seen or not depends on a lot of factors. But calling something 1080i HD when it is not is an error.

    What term would you prefer instead of HD-Lite to describe down-rez 1080i HD?
     
  15. tonyn

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    What is wierd about all this rez talk is this: A huge number of people don't really care a lot about how sharp the picture can be. Just go to a movie and see how many people sit in the last rows, so far from the screen their eyeballs are getting little advantage from the great sharpness 35mm film provides. Also have you noticed how many viewers sit 8 to 10 feet back from a 42 inch Plasma? At that distance their visual acuity will not see the difference between 1024 pixels per horiz line and 1920 anyhow.

    I am not one of those people. I sit in a theatre close eough to the screen so that the screen nearly fills my field of vision. At my 42in. Plasma I sit about 5 feet away and find I have to get within 3 feet before I begin to resolve individual pixels. I like lots of resoloution, but I bet I am in the minority of all viewers.

    There is some general perception among the public that it is bad for your eyes to sit close to a screen, or mabye they just think that to have the visual pleasure of filling your field of vision with lovely, sharp pictures is indulgent and thus evil behavior. People are wierd, like the ones that refuse to use a turn-signal when driving, even tho in most cases it is to their advantage to do so.
     
  16. purtman

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    :backtotop
     
  17. smiddy

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    Is this topic about HD, the coming of, or something else? When will DirecTV turn on some new HD channels, eh?
     
  18. camikeva

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    For what it's worth, I was listening to WTOP radio this morning here in D.C. They had an item about a new Smithsonian channel being broadcast in HD starting this Wednesday on DirectTV.
     
  19. steveken

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    9300 & 9301 are on.
     
  20. steveken

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    Well, they were, now the TP's are dead.

    Edit:
    NM, back up now. Must have been doing a little work on the sat. Or its the rain I am getting here at the moment.
     
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