The Last Ship (TNT)

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  1. mrro82

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    OK. Tonight's episode had some pretty glaring fact issues. 1. The boats they launched from the James were RHIBs. Acronym for Ridged Hull Inflatable Boat. The hull is aluminum. The sponsons on the side are Inflatable. They could have kept forward momentum to keep the water out. I would hope an officer would know that but perhaps not. The enlisted amongst us probably know that answer. I know I do. 2. There is no way in hell they drifted 10-15 miles in a no wind current in about 15 minutes. No way. Tides aren't even that fast.

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  2. Laxguy

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    Not even Navy but I knew they should have gunned it towards the mother ship!
    To drift just ten miles in even a very strong tidal current would take at least three hours, unless in the Gulf Stream.

    And when they were finally hoisted into the chopper, not a single sign of hypothermia. Even warm ocean water will cause that given enough time. And three weapons trained on the Cap'n! while he was on his back in close quarters.
     
  3. Rich

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    Our ships and the Canadian ships were the best maintained ships I've ever seen. I've never seen a Russian war ship, we didn't put up with them during the time I was aboard ship. I was really surprised when the Russian ships of the line visited Venezuela a couple years ago. I did see a lot of Russian subs, but you can't tell how well they're maintained unless you go below. That ship in the show is an Arleigh Burke destroyer, capable of doing a whole lot of damage to anything it comes up against. It is beautiful.

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    Most of the officers I knew wouldn't have known that. Most of the officers I knew had little to no idea what to do in most situations. Hell, most of them would puke right into the wind! I don't know how many times I saw that happen. My favorite story (and this isn't made up or embellished) is about the JG we had in our director who got sick pretty quickly and told me to hand him the can in front of me. I knew what would happen if he puked into it and tried to tell him where to hang over the side director so we didn't all get puked on, but he insisted on that can, which we used as an ashtray. It was about a quarter full of butts and ashes when he barfed into it. He ended up with vomit all over his face and uniform. Ashes and butts stuck to his face and body.

    I got called to the bridge after we secured from GQ and the Captain asked me why the JG was given a butt kit to puke into. I told him the truth and he had to hide his face from the bridge crew. He was still laughing when I left the bridge. Him I trusted, the rest of the officers might as well have not been aboard for all the good they did.

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  5. Laxguy

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    Hells-bells, anyone with a passing glance at the laws of physics would have known that. But, what, this is TV and there've been only a handful of movies dealing with nautical matters that are accurate.
     
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    Like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? :p
     
  7. mrro82

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    I can see that happening. I'm enlisted and have been lucky enough to see some JOs in action. Face palming just isn't enough.

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  8. Laxguy

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    Yeah, that's the ticket! Me and my wife, Morgan Fairchild, produced that movie!.
     
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    We really could have treated our officers better. But, like animals sensing weakness, we attacked. Some of the things we did were really outrageous, but we always got away with them. Even the Captain was aware of some of the things we did and he seemed to get a kick out of them. Every new JO that came aboard rotated into CIC for a period of time, usually at the beginning of his time aboard. The guys in CIC mounted an inclinometer at eye level where the new officers were seated. For those that don't know what an inclinometer is, it's just a pendulum that swings back and forth as the ship rolls. And they're sickening to watch if you don't have your sea legs under you. Most of the officers got seasick pretty quickly. Humor aboard ship is really something everybody should get a chance to experience.

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  10. trh

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    Now days much of that would be called hazing.
     
  11. Rich

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    Nowadays (I guess that's the word you meant), everything is far too regulated. And as long as the Captain was aware of the things that were going on, who would they appeal to?

    I had an ensign walk into Plot one day and ask me what kind of meter I was using. Told him it was a megger and he wanted to see it work. So I gave him a probe for each hand and told him to hold on and started cranking. He left, still not knowing what a megger was for, but he sure knew what 500 volts felt like! Good times! :rolling:

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  12. mrro82

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    We used to hook those up to door handles and had people lay to that compartment. Oh the joy we had with a megger. Nowadays if people feel they are being hazed etc. They can jump the chain of command if they feel that said chain condones the hazing. Sad but true.

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  13. Rich

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    Great minds think alike! We used the meggers on doors in the same way.

    That's a damn shame (what I highlighted), we had a happy crew and nobody complained. But that was a long time ago and I know things have changed.

    I was sleeping on the main deck one night, snuggled up against a spud locker and a JG and an Ensign (a guy who was a royal PITA) woke me up without knowing I was there. The JG was telling the Ensign to take it easy on the crew and the Ensign was giving him a hard time about it. The JG asked him how well he could swim and asked if he thought he could swim to shore from where we were. Obviously, nobody could swim from the Mid-Atlantic to shore and the Ensign asked him why he brought that up. The JG gently laid his hand on the Ensign's back and lightly shoved him toward the safety lines. The JG told him if the crew were to get really upset with him...well it's a pretty long swim. True story, no embellishments. It never happened on our ship, but we knew that it happened on other ships. Or suspected it, I should say. No way to prove it.

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  14. mrro82

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    Sounds like the JG was a good guy and knew how things were. Seems so rare nowadays. They're more concerned with their OERs than anything else.

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    He was one of the better officers on the ship. I kinda doubt that it was his idea, tho. That Ensign was straight out of ROTC and thought all enlisted men were a step higher than dirt. Took him a couple months to get settled down before he was OK. For kicks we saluted him every time we saw him on deck. That's enough to drive an officer crazy on a destroyer. Nobody told us to stop, he settled down and we decided he had had enough. (For those who didn't serve in the Navy, we only had to salute an officer once a day and we usually didn't bother doing that.)

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  16. mrro82

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    Lol. It's the little things that can drive em nuts. That's good he settled down. I think the best officers hands down are warrants. Every one I've met has been awesome especially the engineering ones. You could chisel the salt off those guys.

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    Ok guys -

    Having BEEN that relatively new JO (I had the CIC division on our frigate) - I knew better than to go hyper military with them. I asked my senior enlisteds their opinions how things should be handled when there were problems (not many). I believed in treating them like men (there weren't any women permannetly assigned to destroyers /frigates in the '80s). .

    Also - warrant officers in the US Navy have had a successful career as enlisted first - no wonder they did so well. But on small boys - you often see some of the "division officers" being a CPO. As I recall - we didn't have any LDO's or warrants in our wardroom, but the EMO was an ETCS, the MCPO ran the admin department (with the XO his dept Head), the 1st LT was a BMCS, and I'm sure I'm missing some others. We couldn't run the ship without them.
     
  18. Rich

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    We didn't have any Warrant Officers on our ship. We didn't even see the chiefs very much. The best officers I saw were the ones from Annapolis, they were always friendly and knowledgeable, but they never lasted long. They got scooped up by other bigger ships. We usually had to deal with ROTC guys.

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    I have no idea what the chiefs did on our ship. We rarely saw them. They didn't head up any divisions, never saw one at an inspection, never saw one stand a watch. I know they had a pretty good poker game in the chief's quarters and they also had their own mini-galley in the chief's quarters. We used to sneak in and make egg sandwiches at night. One night one of the chief's walked thru while we were cooking, we thought we were doomed. All he said was, "Make me a couple, will you?" I liked that.

    The time frame I'm talking about was the early 60s and I know things have changed. We had a lot of WWII and Korean War vets on board and they pretty much ran things. They had the experience that just couldn't be found in the officers we got right out of college.

    I watched one of those ROTC officers get nailed by our Captain. We knew the XO and the Captain weren't happy with this guy and one day, entering Norfolk, I was on the fo'c'sle (that's the front of the ship) and on the phones when I heard the Captain had told that officer to take her in. That was a real WTF moment for me. I knew he had no chance of getting the ship anywhere near the pier. As we approached the piers, I watched the ship across from where we were supposed to dock and saw her Captain standing on the port side of the bridge watching us approach. By this time, I was getting a running commentary over my phones about what was going on on the bridge. Wasn't pretty. We ended up crashing slowly into the ship across from us. Didn't do much damage to either ship, but it sure angered the other ship's Captain. While all this was going on, I was still standing on the fo'c'sle and I have to admit it was a pretty scary thing to watch. Finally, someone yelled over the phones, "Run Rich" and I ran behind the forward gun mount. Wasn't really much of a crash.

    Next thing we knew, that officer was wearing a white hat. Right after he got broken down to the enlisted ranks, he disappeared. Got transferred to another ship to serve out his "enlistment". I think that was for 6 years. Not sure.

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    We watched the latest episode last night. The Captain of a ship of the line going on a mission in a Zodiac? That would never happen. Not his job.

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