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The "Missing HD" Discussion Thread (was "NO HD" Gripe)

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by rey_1178, Dec 25, 2007.

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  1. Dec 30, 2007 #141 of 1493
    Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Agree 100%, BUT, you forgot "Let's use up our bandwidth on existing SD channels by retransmitting them in HD even if they have VERY little HD content and distort SD content".
  2. Dec 30, 2007 #142 of 1493

    drmckenzie AllStar

    Aug 28, 2007
    True. What we have is an industry trying (not always very successfully) to pull itself up by its bootstraps into a new video age. It's important for people like you, who understand the issues, to speak out when the emperor has left his clothes at home.

    There's also a natural desire of people to have leadership in times of change. You can see it in posts where Dish is lambasted for doing this or not doing that. Now maybe Dish is doing the right things behind the scenes, in not responding to every conflicting demand that comes their way. But I believe they are not offering the leadership that would win their customer's loyalty. Distrust is a more common reaction.
  3. Dec 31, 2007 #143 of 1493

    HobbyTalk Hall Of Fame

    Jul 14, 2007
    The last time E* responded to customer's "demands" it got us the worthless HD channel TBS that has had no HD programming other then for one week. Now they are getting blasted for giving customers what they wanted. Damned if you do and damned if you don't .
  4. Dec 31, 2007 #144 of 1493
    Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Bingo!! I tried watching TBS last night, some Ahnold movie, just to take a look and couldn't bear to watch the stretchovision. Try watching that crap on a 98" screen sometime. It will drive you crazy after a short time. I had to change channels.
  5. Dec 31, 2007 #145 of 1493

    trolane Cool Member

    Dec 29, 2007
    HBO 8pm every sat = new movie
    MAX 10pm every sat = new movie
    STARZ 9pm every sat = new movie
  6. Dec 31, 2007 #146 of 1493

    TBoneit Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    Since no provider satellite or cable has the capacity to carry every SD channel in HD most of the channels available would go away.

    Is that your goal to get a few more HD channels and kill of channels that the majority of viewers are happy watching in SD on their SD sets?
  7. Dec 31, 2007 #147 of 1493

    cpucrash0 New Member

    Oct 11, 2002
    shopping channels in hd.lol
  8. Dec 31, 2007 #148 of 1493

    Miggity AllStar

    Aug 10, 2007
    How about instead of a law there is an actual standard? Some kind of seal of approval a network can apply for? Then TBS and History Channel will get their stuff together when they get denied. ESPN and Discovery and everybody else gets shiny gold "WE ARE HD" stars to put next to their content ratings when a show starts. But the losers get denied. Not yours TBS. Not yours History Channel.

    Like it has to be in OAR and actually HD. No stretching. No falsely labeling everything as HD in our guides.

    I am looking at you Turner Networks and AE Networks.

    No stretching History Channel and TBS.

    Zoom and crop is chill though. Discovery knows whats up.

    (Screw you History Channel for making me record the same episodes of your shows 3-4 times until I am lucky enough to catch one in OAR and not "retard-stretched" letterboxed 16:9)
  9. Dec 31, 2007 #149 of 1493

    BobaBird EKB Editor

    Mar 30, 2002
    Nice idea Miggity, though I would implement it a bit differently.

    The HD stations (HDNet, Universal, VOOM, etc) will get to remain bug-free. They may show their seal of approval during promo inserts.

    Those claiming but not delivering will be required to include an animated bug of a steaming pile of dung that remains on the screen during all offending programs and commercials.
  10. Dec 31, 2007 #150 of 1493

    motts AllStar

    Apr 11, 2006
    Yea I agree with Miggity. What is up with the History channel showing the same show sometimes in OAR and other times (most of the time) in that ridiculous streching of 16:9? I cross my fingers every time I want to watch the Universe and 9/10 times I am disappointed and change the channel.

    Is there no one there with any sense? How can they allow this to go on?
  11. Dec 31, 2007 #151 of 1493

    booger Legend

    Oct 31, 2005
    Clear and Present Danger on the HistoryHD channel yesterday looked like crap! God it was awful. I hope they do get their act together.
  12. Dec 31, 2007 #152 of 1493

    davethestalker Godfather

    Sep 16, 2006
    All of the carriers need to speak up and hold the Stretchers and Croppers to account. I fear that is the only way to get through to the networks.
  13. Dec 31, 2007 #153 of 1493

    texaswolf Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2007
    I have tried the "zoom to proportion" and while it looks better than the stretchy choice on the 622, peoples heads are huge and cut off...so yes, i would rather have that in HD...if the channels wasn't offered in HD anywhere, i would be more "happy with what i have", but since it is...and now by cable companies too:rolleyes: ...it gets rather annoying.

    I dont think we should get rid of VOOM at all, i was simply stating that if he was holding certain standards to channels others are wanting, then he should also hold them to current channels, also.
  14. Dec 31, 2007 #154 of 1493

    texaswolf Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2007
    You don't want the government to be involved in business decisions...unless there is a health risk or danger to people...free enterprise would be thrown out the window.

    But mostly....in order for all channels to be all HD...then all shows would have to be filmed in HD...it's not up to E* or D*. As much as i would like to have all HD...it's simply unrealistic right now...think about how many people don't even have HDTV's....let alone care if a show is in HD...i personally can't stand to watch SD...but my wife (and others wives from what I've read) could care less...same goes for my folks...they are just looking into a HDTV..maybe...

    You would also have to have a law that only HDdvd/BRD players are allowed to be sold...while it would make us HD nuts happy in our HD world...it's highly unrealistic.

    By the way Happy New Years to everyone here!
  15. Jan 1, 2008 #155 of 1493

    Artwood Legend

    May 29, 2006
    It's 2008. Any chance of some more HD by the end of 2009?
  16. Jan 1, 2008 #156 of 1493

    davethestalker Godfather

    Sep 16, 2006
    If Charlie is even remotely considering delaying that long, he better expect to lose more than half of his customer base.
  17. Jan 1, 2008 #157 of 1493
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    With all due respect, I find the question insulting.
    If you really believe E* will not add ANY HD in 2008 you should leave now.

    Go to D* or go to cable ... and if you're already gone please stop insulting E* customers with such comments.
  18. Jan 1, 2008 #158 of 1493

    BNUMM Hall Of Fame

    Dec 23, 2006
    Even if they don't, E* will not lose half of it's customer base.
  19. Jan 1, 2008 #159 of 1493

    jimmino Cool Member

    Feb 6, 2006
    Your all CRAZY!
    I use to live in Italy (82 thru 94), I had one of the first (Home) Sat Dishes in 1988. It was E*. Not only the first! It was the only service for years! Once back here in the states I started with cable, then in 2001 I found that Dish was available to me and jumped to get it. It's not the only service...BUT, It's still the best! Why? Because HDTV and HD PROGRAMING is still very young. Your all like a bunch of kids on Christmas morning...I want, I want! Grow up and wait!
    Panasonic HD tube 1080i
    622 and 722
    in SOCAL (Southern California)
  20. Jan 1, 2008 #160 of 1493

    whatchel1 Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2006
    Guys lighten up. I think the guy was just joking. :lol:
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