The Neverending Wildfire Season

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  1. Mark Holtz

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    LOLZ. The closest that tornado got was 7.5 miles SSW of my home, and had my mother, my cat, and I bugging out to the bathroom which was the most interior room in the home.

    Think I'll start another thread rather than hijack this one.
     
  2. Aug 3, 2020 #182 of 234
    phrelin

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    While the pandemic gets the headlines and the worry, as usual we have our ongoing worry particularly now that the peak wildfire season is upon upon us:

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    Then again, what would we do if we had nothing to worry about...?
     
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    Rich

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    I saw the news about the fires near LA last night. Thought it might be time for your fire reports and here you are. I hope it's not as bad as the last time you folks went thru this.

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    phrelin

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    Yes, it was time. Covid-19 and politics dominate the news coverage, but ordinary folks still face wildfires and hurricanes as life goes on.
     
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    I don't even shelter until the tornado is within 3-4 miles. Having grown up in tornado alley, it's just not that big a deal most of the time unless it's coming right at you. In college , we native Kansans always got a kick out of the foreign students huddling in the basement for a storm 10-20 miles away (I lived in the International dorm at KU).
     
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    Rich

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    Yup, I'm looking out the window at the remains of Isaiah as I write this. Given a choice, I'd rather suffer thru a hurricane than deal with those wildfires. Be well.

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    While it may not seem like it, generally speaking here in Los Angeles most houses are no where near where fires can get to them. Not saying there aren’t plenty, but the vast majority are not in danger ever from these fires.
     
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    That's good. Fire scares me. Most of us live in wood-framed houses here and they burn rapidly. Those pictures Phrelin posted a couple of years ago haunt me.

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  9. Aug 6, 2020 #189 of 234
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    Yeah that was bad. But those are often houses in the mountains surrounded by forest area. While the fires do get big groups of houses sometimes those are generally in very hilly areas with large swaths of vegetation leading up to them where the fire gets going first.

    It’s awful when it does get homes. But when it wiped out a town out in Thousand Oaks area a couple years ago all those houses where most;y spread out in a mountainous kind of area...not in the heart of the dense city...
     
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    Those pictures Phreling posted looked like the homes had been carpet-bombed. They were close together. IIRC. Fire is so fast, that's the scary part. Hurricanes we get warnings about, how do you prepare for fires of that magnitude?

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    Bot sure which exact ones you mean but often those are in or up against areas of vegetation. There’s a lot of canyons around here that sometimes burn and when they do they can wipe out 100 homes easily that are near that vegetation.

    Fires of that magnitude you can usually see coming as well unless you are right where they started. The problem is people think they have more time than they do.
     
  12. Aug 8, 2020 #192 of 234
    Rich

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    That's the part that scares me. People think they're immortal and when it dawns on them that that might not be true it's often too late. I'm thinking of the guy that stayed in his cabin when Mount St. Helens blew. Matter of fact, I think of him a lot. That was some time ago and I can't get it out of my mind.

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  13. phrelin

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    Yesterday our Sheriff posted this map warning of extreme fire danger on which I've noted where our house is:

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    It is part of the extreme heat warning which could last up to 10 days:

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    I've marked the Sheriff's map area on the extreme heat map.

    Today at this time we have had one fire in Covelo which they're now mopping up. In the midst of it all, they had to transport a 70-year-old firefighter(yeah 70) who collapsed in the heat. And fire/rescue crews had to go get two idiots about age 30 suffering from extreme heat exhaustion off of an isolated trail in the Cow Mountain. recreation area
     
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    And then there's this:

     
  15. phrelin

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    Well, we had a few rough days along the Northern California coast. (This is not to minimize the wildfires in other parts of California.)

    It all began Saturday. It felt like we had mysteriously been beamed to the East as the humidity rose with the heat bringing lightening and thunder. The problem is out here everything is tinder dry. So Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, fire agencies have had spotter aircraft and strike teams chasing down lightening strike fires all leading this morning to this headline Live updates: Multiple fires in Sonoma County, North Bay continue to rage with little containment.

    It's not that we don't have the rare occasional summer lightening. We just don't have this kind of storm formations and for multiple days.

    Naturally it rained a little making highways slippery which resulted in multiple auto accidents all over the area further stressing fire departments.

    Then at 5:55 PM yesterday we had a 4.6 earthquake, with one foreshock and 27 aftershocks just to keep it interesting.

    So far we have avoided a fire in our immediate area, but it's clouding up again....
     
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    Good luck .
     
  17. phrelin

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    Here's a map showing the fire boundaries this morning. Note that the land area here is as large or larger than the smaller 35 of the 50 states and then consider the burning areas sizes:

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    Unfortunately, the fire on the map above in the Vacaville-Fairfield area is turning into a unprecedented disaster as I-80 is shutdown. If you are on twitter https://twitter.com/hashtag/LNULightningComplex?src=hashtag_click&f=live

    In our neighboring Sonoma County we can see the evacuation impact (it's about 20 miles across) and there are similar size evacuations all up and down the coastline:

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    The phrase if it’s not one thing it’s another just doesn’t quite do 2020 justice...

    Stay safe up there. My neighbors old school mercury thermometer in his garage showed 113 Monday... 134 in Death Valley... thousands of lightening strikes up north... it’s just crazy...
     
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    The hardest thing to comprehend today is the news. Along with 0% containment in all the major Bay Area fires we have this headline:

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    Unfortunately we weren't ready to deal with the fire explosion in less than three days.

    Today's headline was Short hundreds of firefighters, California calls on other states for help with the kicker "Arizona, Nevada and Texas to provide 375 engines to the Golden State." When we have had a gradual increase in fires, we saw an AP headline story July 31, 2018, was 10 States Send Relief Crews for Exhausted California Firefighters and on August 4, 2018, CNN's story was Australia and New Zealand to send fire crews to help battle California wildfires.

    It appears way too many areas have only 10%-20% of the normal available firefighters and equipment.

    Right now on our scanner a fire reported at the Mendocino-Sonoma County lines dispatch was sending a small number of engines from different locations with helicopters and aircraft "on order." Fortunately, the first unit at the scene said it is a "fully involved travel trailer with no spread to vegetation." Each one of these gives the listener that "stomach-in-throat feeling".
     
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