The Neverending Wildfire Season

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  1. phrelin

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    The comparison today is we have more land burning than land within the state of Rhode Island:

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    However, we now are getting help from 14 states, many of which have wildfires of their own.
     
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    Maybe We need a massive Air Fire force wing of the army core of engineers of water and fause (sp?) check dropping planes. Like literally 500 of them or more. And left Air Force pilots be trained to fly them and in times like these have them loaned from the Air Force to the air fire fighting Force to help fight all this in all states.
     
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    If they find the guy, I say drop him away from everyone in the path of the blaze, give him a shovel, and tell him he better work hard to build a fire break before he gets burned...
     
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    phrelin

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    Well, it finally happened. We had to evacuate 4 hours ago. More later.
     
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    Mark Holtz

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    So glad I escaped that state.
     
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    Rich

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    Let us pray...

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    inkahauts

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    Take care!
     
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    Take care and stay safe.
     
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    phrelin

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    Well, we are staying with our oldest son and family. We'll probably be here a few more days. It's named the Oak Fire aka #OakFire. While it does look like they have a good shot at keeping the fire out of our 1,500+ home 6,000 acre subdivision today will be an important day.

    We have mixed feelings about being gone because of this:

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    I've never seen a reading that high. Because of a temperature inversion at around 3 pm yesterday it apparently was like night in Willits. I've posted a video from a reporter driving through town on my Facebook site. https://www.facebook.com/michael.phelan.7927/
     
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    phrelin

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    While California is a mess right now, things aren't great elsewhere on the West Coast as noted in this article:

    Wildfires are raging across hundreds of thousands of acres in Oregon and Washington this week — and forcing tens of thousands of people to evacuate their homes.​
     
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    Glad you’re ok, hope your house is ok.

    That link didn’t work.
     
  12. Rich

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    When do the Santa Anna winds begin?

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    We were expecting Santa Ana winds this week but they certainly didn't reach the local coast area. There's smoke high in the air here but nothing like the conditions in northern California.
     
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    Much to our surprise, late this afternoon we got a notice of repopulation of Brooktrails. So we're home. Things look fine though the weather and house was cold! The smoke was dense from San Anselmo to Willits with no break.
     
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    Good to hear ... Welcome home!
     
  16. Mark Holtz

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    494 exceeds what I saw in the Sacramento in November, 2018 before I left.
     
  17. phrelin

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    Well, the North Bay is back in the middle of it again with the Glass Fire (Complex?) threatening significant populations in the Napa-Sonoma region. Currently at 11,000 acres with 0% containment and 11,000 homes and businesses evacuated. The winds shifted now coming from the northerly direction causing the August Complex to again threaten the northern part of Mendocino County. Also starting Sunday the Zogg Fire in Shasta County destroyed the Ono Store and Ono Grange, two historic buildings in the town west of Redding, and continues to burn. Our air quality ranges from "unhealthy for sensitive persons" to "unhealthy" and we have our car packed for evacuation should it become necessary. A state legislator said this morning, this is getting old. I would add "tiring." This is not the California I grew up in even if that was already a delusion that I knew about but denied.

    It's difficult to look at our grandchildren knowing that the 1965 landmark report, "Restoring the Quality of Our Environment" by U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Science Advisory Committee warned of the harmful effects of fossil fuel emissions noted:

    The part that remains in the atmosphere may have a significant effect on climate; carbon dioxide is nearly transparent to visible light, but it is a strong absorber and back radiator of infrared radiation, particularly in the wave lengths from 12 to 18 microns; consequently, an increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide could act, much like the glass in a greenhouse, to raise the temperature of the lower air.​

    And then there was the 1968 study by the Stanford Research Institute for the American Petroleum Institute noting:

    If the earth's temperature increases significantly, a number of events might be expected to occur, including the melting of the Antarctic ice cap, a rise in sea levels, warming of the oceans, and an increase in photosynthesis. [..] Revelle makes the point that man is now engaged in a vast geophysical experiment with his environment, the earth. Significant temperature changes are almost certain to occur by the year 2000 and these could bring about climatic changes.​

    If that weren't bad enough, I was and am a John Steinbeck fan. From an early draft of To A God Unknown published in 1933 after taking 5 years to write:

    About every thirty years there have come periods of rainlessness to Central and Southern California. These desolating years seem to come creeping up out of the white desert to warn the west that it will one day die as the desert has died. They are like the Reminders of Death at an Egyptian feast ....

    And now the periodic drought had settled on the land. Little by little, year on year the water was sucked from the ground. The hills looked gaunt and hungry and pale. The bones of many thousands of starved cattle were whitening on the ground. Two families of Waynes packed up their possessions and drove away. Joe watched his dying land with terror and with loathing.​

    It's a little hard for me to claim "I had no idea!"
     
  18. James Long

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    So in a year when people stayed inside and reduced their travel for work and leisure to the point of having clear skies for the first time in many people's lifetimes we have tremendous fire storms in the west and enough hurricanes that forecasters have gone greek. And winter is coming ... I suppose that will be worse too.

    2020 baby. A year most people will want to look at in hindsight.
     
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    That certainly will be true.

    UPDATE: Live updates: An estimated 35,550 Santa Rosa residents under evacuation orders as homes continue to burn

    Sigh.
     

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