I do have a question for all my friends out there, I have been getting lots of offers to return to D after they let me get away after 22 years with them but I doubt I would for two years minimum. No, I am not on any contract with Blue Ridge Comm but I'm saving $1000 my first year and $700 my second year. PLUS, I have some loyalty for the great deal BRC made for me. I have the Tivo Dream with 3 Tivo minis. Works just like the Genie and clients.. I had an interesting call yesterday from my so called "Loyalty Manager" at D. He told me that they had revamped the customer service dept and fired all the poor performers and that they would offer me a new Genie 2 and 4 wireless minis, and installation free. Total choice package for $68 per month and that included everything including the 4 minis (normally $6 per month per mini), No HD or DVR or Whole house charge. Kinda hard to believe. He also claimed that D now had out a new 18" dish that was so good that it virtually eliminates rain fade. He also claimed that D now had 17 satellites in orbit. I questioned him about that but he seemed to skirt the issue. So bottom line, he offered me:The Genie 2. (is there such a thing) Total free installation including a dish in the ground 4 Genie wireless mini's Total package per month including all charges $68 per month and $73 per month the 2nd year of the contract. NO RAIN FADE with their new super efficient dish Can anyone please tell me if this is true? I'm skeptical. I've learned too much from all my friends in DBS Talk.