The "new" Directv

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  1. MrDad0330

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    Yep and my Home Theator room is the darkest room in my house in the daytime so that works
     
  2. MrDad0330

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    So, there is a UHD player, an upgrade from Blu-ray? Do you know if Netflix offers UHD discs?
     
  3. Delroy E Walleye

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    Yes, there are UHD players.

    Unfortunately (last I heard) Netflix has no plans to rent UHD discs.
     
  4. slice1900

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    Yep I realize OLED is very bright now, it just doesn't have the level of maximum brightness that LEDs have. Anyone who thinks current OLED isn't bright enough for them are watching TV in a VERY bright room, in which there will be less advantage for OLED. What's the point of perfect blacks and great contrast ratio in a room so bright you can't see it? Yeah, it'll be great at night but they'll be setting themselves up for disappointment if they expect it'll deliver the same far superior picture compared to LED in a sunlit room that it does at night.

    OLED also has advantages in true frame rate (i.e. worst case GtG transition that leads to motion blur that is noticeable to some of us) but until we see 4Kp120 content appear that won't matter too much - and maybe LCD technology will have improved by then to where it can properly handle that frame rate as well.

    I have an LED TV set up in a north facing window for viewing outside, so it never sees direct sunlight but simple reflection of sunlight off a fence painted with a very dark color is all it takes to totally wash it out. And that's with brightness cranked up to the maximum. The sun is very bright compared to most artificial light sources even indirect sunlight.
     
  5. MysteryMan

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    Till today nothing beats physical media. UHD discs are available at BJ's, Best Buy, Walmart, ect. There are a variety of UHD players, here's a list...LG UP970...Oppo UDP-203...Oppo UDP-205 (Oppo is considered the "Cadillac" of UHD players but recently have known software issues)...Samsung UBD-K8599...Samsung UBD-M8500...Samsung UBD-M9500...Sony UBP-X800...Sony ES UBP-X1000ES.
     
  6. compnurd

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    UHD discs are what really make your 4K tv shine
     
  7. Rich

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    I can't bring up the bottom of this post, but it's not uncommon for the lower tier Samsungs to not work as well as the higher tier out of the box. I found that out the hard way. In my search for a decent set I returned two Series 6 4K Samsungs, one 1080p Series 6 set, one LG 4K (not OLED) and one Sony 850(don't remember if it was a "C" or a "D", apparently that makes a big difference). I bought every one of them with the expectation of them working out of the box. The Sony was almost $2000, my upper limit for a TV set.

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  8. Rich

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    Huh. I didn't expect that. I've seen the new Samsung QLEDs side by side with an LG OLED and a KS8000 and didn't see much difference. Asked my 8 year old GD which one was better and she thought the 8000 was the best. All displayed the same content so it was an easy comparison.

    I do wish NF would get with the UHD discs. I'll but a UHD player as soon as they do. I'd much rather get the discs from them than buy them. That didn't work out well with VHS tapes and DVDs and BDs.

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  9. Rich

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    Every time I call NF I ask that question. Apparently they need more discs produced in UHD, then they'll start.

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  10. MysteryMan

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    It's been nearly two years since UHD titles have been made available. That's a lot of content. How many titles does Netflix need to start offering UHD?
     
  11. Delroy E Walleye

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    That's a good question.

    One answer I came up with (on my own) was that out of a mere "handfull" of UHD discs, there was already a defective one in the bunch - the second UHD disc I tried to play.

    It won't even load.

    All my other discs load just fine ( and relatively quickly, too).

    In fact my player (first off the list - post 45) actually read through a manufacturing defect in a DL-DS DVD (suspected layer-change problem) that had been plaguing me for several years. No other device I've tried was ever able to accomplish this, including two different recorders, several players and a computer drive.

    Point being IMO it is not the player. It's the disc. Maybe why NF doesn't want to mess with them, yet... Just a theory.
     
  12. MysteryMan

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    I'm a film buff and have a large film library (DVDs, Blu-rays and UHDs). If memory serves me through the years I've purchased three defective DVDs, one defective Blu-ray and zero defective UHDs. That says a lot about quality assurance with discs. I doubt defective UHDs are the reason Netflix hasn't entered the UHD rental market.
     
  13. Delroy E Walleye

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    Other than that one DVD I mentioned, I've never had a defective disc that I can remember. I'm glad to hear that you haven't encountered any defective UHDs. Maybe there's another reason, or reasons for NF to not want to rent UHDs.

    My next theory would be that streaming is much less costly to them.

    I just wish the services (like DirecTV) and the content providers would supply more television in UHD.

    We just got a fiber roll dropped along the street the other week and buried last week. The regional TelCo has been providing HD over their DSL for nearly 15 years (not near the quality of D*).

    As far as I know, they've no plans to deliver UHD themselves (yet) but that fiber sure opens up some possibilities...
     
  14. MrDad0330

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    How much space is needed to transmit UHD vrs 1080P? Does D have the capacity?
     
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    Directv has a lot of spare capacity set aside for 4K, if/when 4K channels actually appear.
     
  16. Rich

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    First time I asked the NF CSR didn't know what a UHD disc was. Now they know, but they seem to be waiting for...something. It does seem as if there is enough content out there. I have never talked to someone at NF that gave me a good answer to my questions about UHD discs. I do know that NF BDs and the BDs we can buy are different in some aspects, I think the discs NF uses have to be made for them. That's the only thing I can think of. I know there's a market for the UHD discs, that's obvious.

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  17. Rich

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    Might be that, kinda doubt it. I have constant problems with NF BDs, they come cracked or dirty. I know how to clean the dirty discs but the cracked discs I can't fix. It's gotten so bad that I check each disc that arrives immediately to see if it's broken or cracked. I call and tell them about these problems and they send me good discs and extra discs for my troubles. It just doesn't stop. If the BDs are this bad how much worse can the UHDs be? Point I'm trying to make is they're used to disc problems and have ways to pacify customers, why would UHF discs be different? Gotta be a market, NF seems to take advantage of opportunities, I'd think they'd be eager to start shipping the discs.


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  18. Rich

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    I can't remember any problems with bought BDs, but NF BDs, whew!

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