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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Using the HR34 as the bridge to your home network is a supported method.
    There are a couple/few posts of late that say doing so has caused some strange problems with VOD downloads. Not that you'd have these, but if you read enough posts, you'll see them.
     
  2. Sunner73

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    I just moved the PI to #3, however, I have a situation I didn't disclose, ie, I've been using a single tuner SD Tivo (using it temporarily) off of legacy#3 but when I insert the PI between #3 and the Tivo I don't get a signal.

    It does appears there is a block for the "legacy" signal going thru the PI.
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    There is a DC block in the PI, so you can't connect a legacy receiver to the IRD side of the PI.
     
  4. mikeren1

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    Hey VOS... I looked around the forum to see if i could find my answer first with no luck... I have had the h34 whole home setup with cck for a couple of months now and love it.. I just tried to download my first VOD... It has been downloading for abot 30 minutes and it is only showing 5% done... I have high speed cable internet and the conection test out fine on the H34.. Should it be that slow? thx in advance
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    That sounds slower than most.
    While I don't have a 34, I do have a wireless CCK and have used VOD.
    DirecTV only sends out at about 7-8 Mb/s for HD, but normally this is close to a 1:1 rate.
    Some ISPs play games with their network and choke VOD.
    I had one like this several years ago and changing service ended my problems.

    There have been a few posts from 34 users who say when they use the CCK, their download is slow, and if they used the network port of the 34, it's faster, but the VOD has had jumpy/jerky playback.
     
  6. daveriv

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    Hi VOS - I am on MRV unsupported currently. Recently my internet service price went up so I'm considering changing plans. Right now I'm on an 18Mbps/18Mbps plan. If I move to a 5Mbps/5Mbps plan will I see a degradation in performance - I'm not clear if the download speed has any correlation to my MRV experience. Thanks!
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    This change will only affect your VOD download times.
    MRV stays within your home network, so it will not be affected.
     
  8. daveriv

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    Thanks VOS
     
  9. Sunner73

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    Hi VOS,

    I've finally rec'd my new HD setup and it came with a WCCK, I also found an image that you posted last year (reference image threads) that I have a question about. In the image the ethernet connection (white cable above the white coax) is not going to the receiver but I'm hoping it would be connected to the router or modem.

    It will be placed next to a HR34 for which I've already ran an ethernet cable from that position to the room with my combo router/modem, ie, a 2wire 2701HG-B but that location does not get consistent wifi reception... that's why I ran the cable.

    Just hoping that it would work that way, otherwise .....

    Thanks in advance.
     

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  10. veryoldschool

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    In that image, the ethernet does run to my [2Wire] router.
    Since you have a HR34 where the CCK would be, you can also use the ethernet port on the HR34 and it will do the same thing the CCK hardwired would.
     
  11. Sunner73

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    Any advantage one way over the other?
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    They both do the same thing.
    The CCK has an internal splitter, so the 34 would have slightly less signal, if it was used there. This may not cause any problems, so :shrug:
     
  13. cbhpi

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    Recently, I had installed a slimline 3 swm dish. From the dish to the point of entry, RG6 is used. From the point of entry to the receiver, about 75' of RG59 is used. The power inserter sits behind the receiver, so there is RG59 between the dish and the PI. I'm getting signals in the high 90's on all the channels that matter to me. In the past, you've made it clear that solid core RG6 should be used between the PI and the dish. What problems can I expect in the future?
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    While not the best choice, the run seems short enough as to not be a major issue. The RF loss is only going to be a couple of dB or so [more].
    The DC resistance may be twice of what solid copper core RG6 would be, but if this is also solid copper core, it's only a couple of ohms.
    Check the PI label and see if it's a 21 volt or the 28/9 volt. I'd be more worried about a 21 volt PI than the 28/9 volt, as the higher will handle this resistance [voltage drop] with plenty to spare.
     
  15. cbhpi

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    Thank you, and will do.
     
  16. Sunner73

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    I wasn't quite awake when I asked my prior question, obviously if the ethernet cable is connected to the HR34 then the only internet connection would be through my wifi whereas we know how it would be if the ethernet was connected to the modem.

    Since I do have wifi problems due to obstruction/distance issues I would definitively benefit from the "non-wifi" connection. And no, I do not want to try relocating my wireless router/modem.

    Once again, Thanks VOS
     
  17. Sunner73

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    I've ran the ethernet to my router but I can't get connected (to the Internet), on the WCCK(Deca) only the Power and Activity are lit green, I can ping the Deca unit and it gets responses, I've used a browser to open the setup page of the Deca but I've an interesting situation.
    On the box it gave a MAC address but when I go to the "status" of bridge on the Deca it lists a different MAC address, also the MoCA MAC is also slightly different than the "status" MAC.

    My router is using Static DHCP w/MAC filtering. I've already entered the Deca unit using the MAC listed on the box, then I changed it to the "status" MAC but no difference... still no internet access.

    By chance do you have any lights lit other than "power and activity"? Also would or should the "coax network" light be lit "IF" there is no other receiver currently connected (I'm systematically connecting and setting up one-by-one and I'm wanting to get the internet access working before I connect the other HR's).
     
  18. veryoldschool

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    Have you connected a coax to your WCCK? If so the cLink/coax network should be lit and green. If it isn't, then you don't have a connection to your receivers.
     
  19. Sunner73

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    Yes, the port labeled "Towards LNB" I've connected to the SWM16, the other to the receiver.

    All the user manual talks about is WPS or go to "Manual Wireless Setup" which obviously I'm not using the WiFi part of it. There is not even a page on how to hardwire it.

    I can bring up the setup by running the ip address (in a browser), so my computer can obviously see it.

    Do I need to do something about the network values on the HR34 itself? So that they fall into the range my Static-HDCP w/mac filtering router can see?

    And again, the CCK has a mac address while after I log onto the CCK itself the status page shows a different mac also, so which one I'm I supposed to use?
     
  20. veryoldschool

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    I'm more concerned about the LED status, as that indicates the RF status.
    For now let's pass on the whole router/IP/internet and focus on whether there is coax networking.
    Go to the 34 and press the guide & right arrow buttons [both] on the front panel. You should see a menu with COAX on the left. Select this and the next screen will show all the DECAs that are connected to the node, along with the loss to each from the 34.
    Either post a screen shot or list what you see here and it will help.
     

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