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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. stevester23

    stevester23 Mentor

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    I was very optimistic about this channel 2 weeks ago, but now I think It's less than far less than 50% that we will get this channel anytime soon.

    Both sides seem to be dug in and prepared to drag this out.

    Pac 12 is still betting that people will leave for other carriers and force D* hand. I dont see this happening, especially since they have exclusive carriage of Sunday Ticket. Maybe after NFL season is over, but not now.

    If PAC 12 had a single National Channel like the Big Ten we would most likely have this channel. I may be totally off base, but it's probably the 6 six regional feeds and how to distribute them that is holding this up.

    It took Time Warner 7 years to carry NFL Network.
     
  2. kick4fun

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    Great.. If that's their stance, I will go ahead and schedule my DISH install for next weekend... I'll miss my Sunday Ticket, but I guess I'll watch my team via the Redzone.. :)
     
  3. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    The regional channels all broadcast the same as the National Broadcast, unless it's game time..
     
  4. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    They mentioned the fact they did this on their facebook page when responding to several different people. I think their newest offer didn't go over with anyone. Which is why they included what had also been on the table.
     
  5. kick4fun

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    correct me if I'm wrong, but the NFL made a rule for Directv to offer the NFL through a streaming option for those who can't have a Dish.. Their solution was the PS3, that in my mind is awful... It lags and is no where near the competing streaming options like MLB or the Pac12 Networks.. Hmm, the NFL contract is up after the 2014 season and I'm betting that both Comcast and Dish are eyeing the chance.. NFL would be smart to include as many providers as possible...
     
  6. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    Correct, but your not supposed to be able to get that way because you can get dish. However, I believe several who have dish network have already been doing this.
     
  7. stevester23

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    I think Kick4fun was implying PS# was for people who cant have a dish and not refering to the Dish Network
     
  8. Hoosier205

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    It won't happen, nor would it be smart. There is a reason why Sunday Ticket is limited to one provider and that won't change. The NFL wants to limit ST availability to protect it's television partners and local affiliates. DirecTV will have the ability to negotiate a new contract before the bidding is ever opened up to other providers unless DirecTV passes on it. They won't.
     
  9. kick4fun

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    He understands, because we have been talking about me switching to the DISH..
    My original point was that the quality of Directv's PS3 online streaming is awful and $100 more than those who just want to have Sunday ticket on tv. My thought is that Directv wants people to come over to their subscription rather than offer a good product for the streaming option. I hope the NFL is taking notice, because I would like to have greater competition..
     
  10. kick4fun

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    Maybe you're right and why NFL has such a demand..
     
  11. Hoosier205

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    They do. Also, the PS3 version is only intended for those who cannot get DirecTV service at their address, not those who choose not to.
     
  12. stevester23

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    If DTV ever lost it's exclusive Sunday Ticket carriage chances are they would lose massive numbers of subscribers. I'm not a bean counter, but they may take a loss on this service or break even just to get/keep people under contract.
     
  13. kick4fun

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    That's their angle.. Without NFL, they are at a huge risk...
     
  14. Hoosier205

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    Yep. When they pay $4 billion for Sunday Ticket rights...it's pretty important.
     
  15. kick4fun

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    But we all know this isn't really happening.. :)
     
  16. Hoosier205

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    Even without ST they still offer far more sports, more HD channels, and superior HD picture quality (with the possible exception of Verizon).
     
  17. Hoosier205

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    Not that it matters. A very small number of people sub only to the PS3 version compared to full Sunday Ticket. Either way...DirecTV still gets paid.
     
  18. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    If they lost every ST sub, then it'd be 2 million subs. Not EVERY sub would leave. Also, the money made of ST is off commercial accounts and not home subs.
     
  19. Carl Spock

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    I'm a sports guy who has had DirecTV for years but never has had ST before this year, and I only got it because it was free. I'll see how I feel about ST at the end of the season but so far I'm not that impressed. I can always get the Packers and really, it's rare that I'm so interested in an outmarket game I don't get anyway that I feel left out.

    But I'm open minded. I need to find an outmarket team that I'm hooked on. It might be the Broncos or Niners. I'm going to follow them for the season and see what happens.
     
  20. Hoosier205

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    That makes since. It's geared towards displaced fans. You aren't displaced. Neither am I, but I have a lot of interest in out of market teams.
     

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