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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Winters,...
    @ sdk

    What evidence have you as to the fees paid by other carriers for any of the sports "conglomerates"? (i.e., Pac12, Big10, whatever). Some folks speak of 90 cents as being a given.
     
  2. Carl Spock

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    * stops in to check out the thread for the first time in a week or two *

    Jeez, things are as ugly as before.

    * leaves *

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  3. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    :shrug::shrug:
     
  4. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    I'm with ya.. It's getting ridiculous..
     
  5. Sandra

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    Personally I would like to see DirecTV move their line in the sand back a little further so they come to an agreement and get these darn Pac-12 channels on the air. I pay so much for sports right now, I honestly do not care if my bill goes up because they meet the demands of the Pac-12 networks.

    That's my opinion.


    Sandra
     
  6. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    What evidence do you have the price is too high? Please tell us of your Directv connections? Are you tight with Mike White?
     
  7. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    Some folks keep saying Directv is being fair.
     
  8. sdk009

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    That's what I've seen in published reports, I have no idea if its the right fee or not.

    Here's a list of 2010 carriage fees from the AVS Fourm:
    What Cable Networks Get From Carriers
    (2010, Per Subscriber, Per Month)

    ESPN/ESPN HD $4.58
    Fox Sports Net $2.37
    Starz $ 2.03
    Showtime: $ 1.59
    RSNs: $0.20-$2.15
    TNT $ 0.99
    Disney Channel $0.88 (commercial free)
    NFL Network $0.80
    Fox News Channel $ 0.58
    HDNet $ 0.55
    USA $ 0.55
    ESPN2 $ 0.54
    MGM HD $ 0.53
    CNN & Headline News $ 0.51
    TBS $ 0.49
    Nickleodeon/Nick at Nite $0.44
    HDNet Movies $ 0.44
    FX $0.42
    Big Ten Network $0.36
    NHL Network $0.35
    Fox College Sports $ 0.34
    MTV $ 0.33
    CNBC $ 0.29
    Sundance $ 0.29
    Versus $ 0.29
    Lifetime $0.28
    HD Theater $ 0.27
    Universal HD $ 0.27
    TCM $ 0.26
    Versus $ 0.26
    Discovery $ 0.25
    Golf $ 0.25
    A&E $ 0.25
    MLB Network $ 0.24
    AMC $ 0.23
    TLC $ 0.23
    Wealth TV $ 0.23
    NBA TV $ 0.22
    Family $0.22
    History Channel $0.21
    E! $ 0.20
    Speed $ 0.20
    National Geographic $ 0.20
    Mountain West Sports Network $ 0.20
    SyFy $ 0.20
    Spike $ 0.20
    Independent Film Channel $ 0.20
    CBS College Sports $ 0.19
    Fox Sports en Espanol $ 0.19
    Bravo $ 0.19
    Smithsonian Channel HD $ 0.19
    ESPN Classic $ 0.18
    ESPN News $ 0.17
    Cartoon Network $ 0.17
    ESPNU $ 0.16
    BET $ 0.16
    MSNBC $ 0.16
    Fox Movie Channel $ 0.16
    Fox Soccer Channel $ 0.16
    TLC $ 0.16
    ESPN Desportes $ 0.15
    Tennis $0.15
    SOAPnet $ 0.15
    VH1 $ 0.15
    Style $ 0.14
    Comedy Central $0.14
    HGTV $0.14
    Fuel $ 0.14
    Game Show Network $ 0. 12
    WGN America $ 0.12
    BBC America $ 0.11
    Fox Business Network $0.11
    Weather Channel $ 0.11
    Biography $ 0.11
    Travel $0.10
    TV Land $0.10
    Oxygen $ 0.09
    Lifetime Movie Net $ 0.09
    truTV $ 0.09
    CMT $ 0.08
    Food Network $ 0.08
    Fuse $ 0.08
    G4 $ 0.08
    Animal Planet $ 0.07
    Military $ 0.07
    Bloomberg $ 0.06
    Hallmark Channel $ 0.06
    VH1 Classic $ 0.06
    C-SPAN $ 0.5
    TV Guide Network $0.02
    Great American Country $ 0.02

    Main Source: SNL Kagan Research
     
  9. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    Oh SNAP... Wonderful.. Very cool..
     
  10. Mariah2014

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    The price next to the MTN kind of shows you what Directv would except. They want the price to drop by 3/4 before picking it up. It is safe to say that just helps confirm they are miles apart.
     
  11. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Big Ten Network gets $0.36 and the Pac12 wants how much? $0.90? That's a big deal with 19 million customers.
     
  12. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    Pretty much.. Without taking sides on Directv vs Pac12, this just show's they really are very apart.
     
  13. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

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    I believe that number is an average, which takes into consideration the number of in market and out of market subscribers.
     
  14. kick4fun

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    It's rumored to be 90 cents, but hey none of us really knows.. At this point its not a who's better discussion. I think we just see a bigger picture of maybe where they stand.. Hmm.. Interesting for sure.
     
  15. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    But the channel is national so why would market area matter?
     
  16. David Ortiz

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  17. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Winters,...
    The 'evidence' is clear on its face: the price or terms are too high for DIRECTV® to add to their normally stellar sports offerings.

    My sole connection with DIRECTV® is that of a (mostly) well satisfied customer. Not even a stockholder, darn, nor have I met Mike White.

    Can you please answer my question as to your affiliation with Pac12?
     
  18. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    I have several times.. I am a fan who values watching my team play.. If it's not on Directv, I'm gone, (which I did for DISH)

    There are others who feel the same. We've been over this so many times.. Do you really need to keep asking this over and over and over and over again... After Pac12 formed a network, most of the RSN's including Root Sports have no meaning to me, or many others for that matter.

    So Directv doesn't agree to Pac12 demands.. Fine.. It doesn't mean it's not fair, just means Directv doesn't want it. GREAT. Now can we drop this. I will post from time to time about anything I might read in terms of rumors etc.

    Please just let this be a fun and interesting dialogue about Pac12 Networks. No need to continue to ask what my affiliation is... I've stated several times, I am a Pac12 alumnus and fan. That's it..
     
  19. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    No need to quote a long post to add a few words....

    Yes, and thanks, sdk. A good start, and may help to slow down certain speculation...... or not. ;)
     
  20. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Winters,...
    Not challenging your allegiance as a fan; you're in the biggest/highest fan tier! :)

    What I've asked several times and you have ignored or deflected is: Have you any connection with Pac12 outside of your fandom?
     

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