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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Carl Spock

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    In that this could set the standard for all of the future college conference packages, I agree. What will happen as the market fragments could cost DirecTV a lot of money. The negotiations could also determine how much each future conference network could expect.

    But for the PAC 12 contract? It's chicken feed in the big scheme of things.
     
  2. kick4fun

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    Isn't that amazing.. We are small little pawns..
     
  3. kick4fun

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    ok, now I'm on the fence..

    Just went to my account on Directv and saw they are giving away a HD DVR for free to sign another 2 year contract.. That addition is nice and puts me in a conundrum..

    1. should I take the offer and now at some point Directv will get the Pac12..

    2. Refuse and go with Dish in January when the NFL is over

    Mind you, I can already stream all Pac12 for free..

    hmm..
     
  4. sum_random_dork

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    Sorry Hoosier I have to disagree with you there, it was far from a "Good faith" offer. D* knew that the Pac 12 would have to say no, they'd lose all their negoation power if they let D* Carry the channels either for free or on a PPV basis. If the deal didn't work out in two weeks or whatever the short time table would be it'd be spun by D* that The Pac 12 had removed the channels that DirecTV customers wanted and it was all The Pac 12's fault. They had to say no. It'd be like a supplier of a product or service and a customer coming to you and saying "hey I think you have a good item, but I don't like the price you're asking for it........why don't let you let me have it for free for a while see if my customers like if they do maybe we can figure out a "fair" deal if not...........hey I don't lose anything and you look bad taking it away from me/my customers."

    The "offer" was set up by the PR dept of DirecTV and was known they'd say no. Every Nat'l writer I read after the anoucement was made said The Pac 12 didn't have a choice but to say "thanks but no thanks."
     
  5. kick4fun

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    Good point!
     
  6. sum_random_dork

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    I would have no problem paying for it, in fact I wrote to DirecTV and said that. But, if they want to go down that route then they are looking at full ala carte and need to give customers true options of what they want/don't want.
     
  7. Carl Spock

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    I think it's a no brainer, kick4fun. My recent experience says that a new DVR is an opening offer. Assuming you are off contract, I'd see what else you can get.

    Plus I don't think DirecTV gave away ST so much this last year, or at least promoted it for cheap, just to let it get away from their clutches in the future. They wanted a lot of new subscribers to pay for the next ST contract. I wouldn't bet against DirecTV keeping ST an exclusive.
     
  8. kick4fun

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    Like Big10.. Take that off my bill and make that ala Carte..
     
  9. Hoosier205

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    A future exodus? Over the PAC-12 Network? You have to be more realistic than that. I'll take all the sports channels I can get. I enjoy Stanford football and UCLA men's basketball as well, but this is not yet a big time channel that will have an impact on churn.
     
  10. DC_SnDvl

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    I would be willing to pay for it, but only if I could carve out things I don't watch like B1G, Cartoon network, E!....

    They need to treat all the products equal for the entire customer base.
     
  11. sigma1914

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    No they don't - it's not new, look at Fox Soccer Plus, formerly Sentata(?). The out of market big sports packages are similar, like ST, EI, etc. Movie packages. All partial ala carte like P12 could be, but they know they'll fail that way.
     
  12. kick4fun

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    It's already happened with some customers.. Notice I didn't say MASS EXODUS. This pertains to quite a few people in the LA Market, and West Coast in general.. Also, ask the millions of fans that watch and love the Lakers.. If Directv doesn't pick that channel up, BIG PROBLEMS.. Watch, you'll see..
    Your precious Directv, "who can do no wrong", will be on the fence.
     
  13. sum_random_dork

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    Add in the big news today, that TWC picked up NFL Network/Redzone channel and another issue people had with switching is gone.
     
  14. kick4fun

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  16. Hoosier205

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    How many by your estimates?

    Zero providers have picked it up. Zero.
     
  17. BusterAvis

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    Actually, it's impossible now for this network to be turned on in time for tomorrow's games.

    According to this week's Sixto report (on Wednesday), Pac-12 network is not showing anywhere as a test channel on DirecTV. If you remember, it was showing as a test channel on Dish Network, a couple days before they came to their agreement.

    So for those carrying out any hope that a last minute deal can be reached tonight at midnight. It still wouldn't matter even if they reached an agreement tonight. The games will not be on DirecTV this weekend. And you can BANK THAT.
     
  18. kick4fun

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    I said some.. I can point to a few.. http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=137&f=1995&t=9373499
    Not including of course the CAL AD.. Also Marteena mentioned he had a couple of work peeps switch to cable.. You can literally spend hrs reading different web sites that show people have switched..

    Time Warner cable??? ZERO? Go check again!
     
  19. kick4fun

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    I concur...Ain't gonna happen!
     

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