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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. sum_random_dork

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    Interesting info from Jon Wilner is his blog:

    He also noted, per sources that The Pac 12 is asking less than the $.90 the B1G channel gets. So we can assume they are more than fair in their pricing.
     
  2. kick4fun

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  3. kick4fun

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    Not according to Hoosier205.. They should be bowing down to Directv because they don't have a good product.. Pac12 is nothing without the greatness of Directv..
     
  4. sigma1914

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    If some of you wanted the channel bad enough, then you'd switch or add providers. Instead, you're reading blogs full of half truths, speculation, "inside sources," etc. Make the change if it's that important. I wanted the games on the Longhorn Network and the day it was added I upped my Uverse package to get it.
     
  5. kick4fun

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    "to use DTV’s own language, … the company had no problem asking customers to pay for Pac-12 content “whether they are interested or not” when it was on the DTV-owned networks.

    Suddenly, it has a problem asking customers to do that with the Pac12Nets, which, sources said, will have lower subscriber fees that the Root Sports channels.

    By the way, I’m pretty sure it’s illegal for a company like DTV, which owns both programming and distribution, to give its content preferential treatment."
     
  6. kick4fun

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    Why make the change when we can talk and speculate here? We are just showing that Directv isn't all that it claims to be when negotiating a good faith deal for the Pac12 Networks..
     
  7. sigma1914

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    :lol: Comcast Philadelphia and TW Lakers might disagree.
     
  8. sigma1914

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    But the Pac12 are angels offering sweet deals? You're showing nothing but quoting 1 sided disgruntled blogs from upset bloggers.
     
  9. kick4fun

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    They have agreed with 4 other MAJOR carriers, not to mention 40 other smaller cable companies.. Doesn't this show consistency.. Directv always plays hardball, but I wouldn't call the offer from PAC12 unreasonable considering so many others bought into it..
     
  10. sigma1914

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    What 40...heck name 10? They're not on Uverse, Charter, Mediacom, Cablevision, Suddenlink or Fios? Why?
     
  11. kick4fun

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  12. sum_random_dork

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    Sigma, Jon Wilner isn't a one sided blogger as you wish to claim. He writes for The San Jose Mercury News/Bay Area News Group. He is their lead College writer and a respected Nat'l writer who votes on the top 25 poll. It's fine if you want to think he is on the side of the Pac 12, but he isn't just some "blogger" as you want to say. He writes his Wilner Hotline blog along with his regular articles.
     
  13. sigma1914

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    He's reputable, yes, but you gotta admit there's been a lot of blog posts. He's still like any journalist and relies on tips. My close friend is a writer (not as big as Wilner) for ESPN who's been on ESPNU and follows recruiting. Even he's received a dozen different answers about Pac12 on DirecTV. There's nothing we can do. Don't be angry ... get the network if you all can.
     
  14. sdk009

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    I have access to the PAC-12.com channel, so I can watch the via the web. I would still rather have access through D* so that I can record games I might miss, and be able to playback game action while I'm watching it.
    I find D*'s argument and position hypocritical and without merit. The PAC-12 has made an offer that has been acceptable to many carriers, and none of them have raised their fees because they added the PAC-12 Net.
     
  15. kick4fun

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    I'm in the same situation..
     
  16. kick4fun

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    Of course I really wanted Directv to show THE Pac12 Networks but now don't really care..

    1st- wanted to be able to watch, well thanks to a password to Comcast, I can stream games
    2nd- Really wanted the renovation at Martin Stadium, which Bill Moos said was on hold because of the no deal with Direct.. Guess what??
    http://washingtonstate.scout.com/2/1223856.html


    Now I can live in peace and wait until after the football season and make a decision that best suits my family.

    After all, its just TV.. :)
     
  17. DC_SnDvl

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    +1
     
  18. nitty316

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    I am absolutely stunned that DirecTV does not have the Pac 12 Network and seemingly everyone else (even Cox Cable in Omaha, NE) does.

    I won’t ever leave DirecTV because their sports packages are second to none, but I am disappointed.
     
  19. Carl Spock

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    Stunned that DirecTV drives a hard bargain in negotiations?

    I'm not, especially when you consider the import of this decision. While none of us really knows what's going on in their executives' minds, I bet DirecTV isn't looking at this as just negotiating a PAC-12 deal. I imagine they are thinking ahead for future negotiations over networks by the ACC, SEC and even individual schools, like the one Texas has now.

    This is not a trivial matter. I understand why DirecTV is playing hardball.

    As a Pac-8 alumnus (I'm old), I don't like it but I understand it.
     
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