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The safest place in the USA

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  1. Nick

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    Ever since I started the thread about Allstate Insurance bailing in Florida, I've been thinking about this topic. Bogy wants everyone living in FL to leave and go somewhere else. But where could they go and be assured of being safe. We all know of areas in this country we think are safe, but a place that is safe from one threat (no hurricanes in Iowa) may be vulnerable to others.

    Natural disasters abound, and, thanks to The Weather Channel and 24/7 news, we see and hear more about the travails of our fellow man that ever before. Natural disasters have even become part of pop culture, with mega-budget movies intended to make us afraid and keep us on the edge of our collective seat.

    In recent years, the rise of terrorism, both domestic and foreign, has been thrust to the forefront of our thinking, forcing each of us ask "Could it happen here"? and "Is my family safe"? Who among us thought that the simple act of going to work could put us in danger, or leaving our loved ones behind could put them in danger? Crime, violence, terrorism, accidents and natural disasters of all descriptions are now all a part of our daily thinking. Paradoxically, the better informed we are, the more we have to be concerned about.

    If, as Bogy suggests, residents of Florida should be relocated, where should they go? What part of this country is not just 'safer', but really safe? In view of the aforemetioned dangers, and in an era of large-scale potential disasters such as long-cycle climatic changes, tsunamis, asteroids and atomic fallout, where is a really safe place in America, or is there one?
     
  2. mainedish

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    Have you seen the prices of houses in Florida? My parents paid $88,000 for a house in 2001 . It's now worth over $290,000. They won't leave. At least with a Hurricane you know it's on the way.
     
  3. olgeezer

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    Safety depends on a state of mind. We can't control God's plan and the likelyhood of man disrupting our lives is remote (I'm not sure about East Saint Louis).
     
  4. cdru

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    Coastal regions have the potential for an eventual tsunamis as well as hurricanes.
    Midwest/plains states have tornados
    New England/Upper Midwest/Upper Plain States states have blizzards
    Areas around large rivers have flooding potential
    Mountainous states have wildfire risks
    West coast has a fault line for earthquakes.
    Any area with a city, town, hazardous waste storage facility, military base, or a population > 2 is a terrorism threat.

    I'd say middle of a desert would be your safest bet, unless you include drought and flash floods as a environmental hazard. If so, then you are screwed.
     
  5. AllieVi

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    Being at or near sea level near the coast is definitely something to avoid, as the recent tsunami shows. Unfortunately, much of our population lives there. A good (i.e., bad) tsunami could flood the entire state of Florida and take everything/everybody with it.

    The southwest away from the earthquake zones has very few natural disasters of any significance. You can almost pick your elevation and how far above the tsunamis you will be. The fires that make the headlines in the late summer are due to local conditions (hillsides) that can be easily avoided. There's plenty of sunshine for those who want to take advantage of its energy. The winters don't bring life-threatening cold. No hurricanes. No tornadoes.

    The mountainous areas of southern Arizona are hard to beat. As an added benefit, there's lots of available cheap labor passing through...
     
  6. ntexasdude

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    cdru, you left a bunch out.

    New England has deadly ice storms that destroy power lines and freeze tens of millions of chickens and cows and cause disease and sickness from the carcasses.

    Mountainous states have mudslides that bury small towns (California) and rockslides, not to mention deadly avalanches.

    Midwest/plains states have tornados and grapefruit sized hail that can collapse the roof of a strong building and kill people inside. BTW - tornadoes can hit anywhere in the world at any time. They are just more prevalent in the plain states.

    If you live in the desert you might survive droughts and flash floods but die from the hantavirus from breathing fumes from rodent dookie.

    Where I live, even though it practically a desert, we are known for the most violent thunderstorms in the world with occasional 100 MPH winds.

    The list goes on and on. Every area has it's own special natural calamity.

    I remember a story from the The Learning Channel about a guy who bought an old missile silo on the Kansas plain (or maybe Nebraska). He lived 200 feet in the ground and had a giant 3 foot thick concrete and steel front door. He may be the safest guy in America.
     
  7. Laverne

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    Everyone has to do their own risk assessment. (Including insurance companies. :yesman: :sure: )

    Kinda like with sex. :D Is it the doctor's fault if you suddenly have some communicable disease? Or maybe you think Viagra is to blame?? :confused: :sure: :rolling:
     
  8. Cyclone

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    Maryland is pretty safe. We only get the occasional tornado and usually the remanents of any hurricanes. But we do have killer Snakeheads.
     
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    Frozen carcasses causing disease in New England?

    When did that happen?
     
  10. Halfsek

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    Ha! Hilarious! Only $290,000.00?
    Granted, I don't know the particulars.

    Want a 2/1, 1,000 square foot house on a 6400 square foot lot in a desireable neighborhood (Willow Glen- in San Jose, CA) with mediocre schools?
    It's only 700k. It's a freakin steal!!

    It's actually quite sad. There is no way a young couple can start with a house here. They have to get a small condo and work their way up from there. Even the condos are $350,000.00 and up.
    :D
     
  11. Danny R

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    He lived 200 feet in the ground and had a giant 3 foot thick concrete and steel front door.

    Depends on the silo. That deep and he might have just dug a well. Someday a small crack might develop and then he drowns. ;)

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    I've always liked Georgia. We have flash floods, but you can avoid those by living on higher ground and not along creeks. We also have the occassional tornados however, and unlike the plain states we don't have the visibility to see them coming so they hit us by surprise.

    And of course a single flake of snow clogs up the whole traffic grid. ;)

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    But of course you folks are forgetting that no place on the planet is safe once a large meteor strike occurs. ;)
     
  12. Nick

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    The part I hate is when your $700k home slides down the muddy embankment into a gulch, or when your $350 condo goes up in flames and you're out of marshmallows.
     
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    On a extinct volcano top in Hawaii of course!:D High enough to fend off tsunamis in the less then 1000' foot catagory(which would wipe out the entire Pacific rim anyway), wet enough to keep wildfires at bay, and with a million or two year old basalt foundation far enough from the "hot spot" to minimize any earthquake danger, and with just enough topsoil to allow grass, eucalyptus, mango and banana trees to thrive with no care, but not enough to cause mudslides.

    Is there such a place? Oh yeah, I'm sitting on it!:p;)
     
  14. Nick

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    You forgot to mention sneak attacks. :eek:
     
  15. jonstad

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    That's Honolulu. Screw them!:sure:

    Besides, I fibbed a little. I'm not quite at the top. What sticks up would act as a blast shield. That is of course assuming the N. Koreans(the usual suspects?) can shoot straight.:eek2:
     
  16. Ray_Clum

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    Let's all join in...


    It's the end of the world as we know it,
    it's the end of the world as we know it,
    it's the end of the world as we know it,
    and I feel fine...
     
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    Not In My Back Yard (NIMBY). Central Ohio is a terribly risky place to live. I remember that horrible twister that touched down in an empty pasture about eight years ago that injured a cow (which thankfully recovered). Disaster is abound and under foot. Don't anyone think about moving here. More and more people die from boredom each day here, so beware.
     
  18. Nick

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    Ray, hang on there buddy. Don't lose (not loose) it now.
     
  19. Ray_Clum

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    At least I didn't launch into "Pets" by Porno for Pyros... :D
     
  20. Richard King

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    Ah, you don't believe, we're on the Eve of Destruction.....
     
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