The Simpsons: “Stark Raving Dad” no longer available

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Mark Holtz, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz New Texan

    Mar 23, 2002
    I know.... I stopped watching The Simpsons after the fifth season. Still, I consider this very significant and with some good reasons...

    From ScreenRant:

    The Simpsons Episode NOT On Disney+
  2. MysteryMan

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    Censorship with lipstick.
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  3. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Did you miss the part where the creators said they don’t want it in there anymore and pulled it from everything? No syndication, not on physical media anymore... everything.. That’s not censorship. That’s them saying they feel they made a mistake and are yanking it. Disney is following along and probably doesn’t disagree.

    I really don’t care either way. But one could make the argument that yanking it means they no long have to pay his estate royalties too when there are questions to what he did.

    The only part about this that puzzles me is people who defend Roman Polanski and still release his stuff but go after everyone else.
  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    Yep, not specific to Dinsey+ but following the creator's will. It is their book and they can remove a chapter.

    I am surprised that the celebrity was Michael Jackson - a person who had the "little boys pants half off" jokes told about him in the 1980s.
    I expected the celebrity to be OJ Simpson or Bill Cosby or someone else who was acceptable in 1991 but has since become a problem.
    (OJ declined to guest star in 1993 before the murders in 1994 - the recurring Bill Cosby character on Simpsons was not voiced by Bill Cosby.)

    The Simpsons has long pushed the edge of decency (although not as much as other Fox adult cartoon shows). I probably would have left the episode in the series, but it is their book.
  5. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz New Texan

    Mar 23, 2002
    It's hardly the first time that an TV series had episodes removed in syndication. I can name a batch of series including the original Twilight Zone (episodes An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge due to rights using a French short film, plus The Encounter due to racial overtones), Tiny Toons Adventures (Elephant Issues), Seinfeld, and so on. All has the problem episodes included as part of the home media release. The most notorious of these was from the original Hawaii 5-O second season episode Bored, She Hung Herself. This episode only aired once on January 7th, 1970, and the family sued CBS after a family member imitated what was shown on the show and killed themselves. The episode was never repeated, never released to syndication, and is not available on DVD or streaming. (The DVD set only says "The Second Season" instead of "The Complete Second Season"). Another series is South Park, which has episodes Super Best Friends, 200, and 201 altered without the creators permission.

    The problem is that the episode has been available for years on DVD, so while it will take some searching, you can probably find a illegal download or a video upload.
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    Come to think of it, I had the DVD in my basement ... I'm watching it now. I'm such a rebel. :D
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  7. machavez00

    machavez00 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 2, 2006
    Hulu has all South Park episodes available for streaming, except one, “Super Best Friends.”
  8. SamC

    SamC Hall Of Fame

    Jan 20, 2003
    As with anything any company refuses to do, sponsor, say, have; everything they do do, sponsor, say or have, they approve of. That is the path one goes down when one self-censors. It equals approval by the company, company policy, of everything not self-censored.
  9. Delroy E Walleye

    Delroy E Walleye AllStar

    Jun 9, 2012
    I can confirm it aired during FXX's Simpsons marathon back in August of 2014 (for whatever that's worth).


    Never even saw Jacko in the credits, just this:

  10. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    The official story is that Michael spoke but did not sing on the show. But the guys making the DVD commentary said that he did sing in rehearsals. The singer (Kipp Lennon) based his performance on Michael's. The commentary suggested that some of the vocalizations may have been Michael.
  11. Delroy E Walleye

    Delroy E Walleye AllStar

    Jun 9, 2012
    I can also confirm "Raving Dad" is missing from the FXX marathon that starts Tuesday.

    (I wonder if they'll air the remaining episodes uncut and not sped up for syndication like they did in 2014 - marathon only.)
  12. AngryManMLS

    AngryManMLS Active Member

    Jan 30, 2014
    At least they went down that route instead of Pokemon with calling the current home video releases for Season 1 "complete" despite missing multiple episodes for various reasons including:

    Beauty And The Beach - James of Team Rocket dressed in drag... oh and Misty (who's only 10) being body shammed. Terrible episode.

    The Legend Of Dratini - Use of guns in the episode which includes at one point a gun pointed at the show's main character Ash Ketchem. Oh and the infamous scene with Meowth dressed up like (not Adolf Hitler but) an stereotypical New York City detective.

    Cyber Porygon Soldier - The infamous seizure episode. Fun fact: It was actually Pikachu who caused the seizure inducing moment to happen. Yet Porygon is blamed for it and has been all but banned out of the series since Pikachu is the dang mascot of the series.

    Holiday Hi-Jynx - Jynx's body at this point being black (accusations of black face). Later on they recolored Jynx purple and even Japan has gotten an recolored version of this episode. And oddly enough an earlier DVD box set actually has this episode included. Only the current DVD and Blu-Ray ones has this missing.

    Snow Way Out - I think they forgot to include this one as there's nothing of controversy with this episode.

    Princess vs Princess - Jynx and black face. I'm assuming Japan has gotten an recolored version at some point.
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2020
  13. techguy88

    techguy88 Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2015
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  14. Kamui

    Kamui New Member

    Mar 1, 2020
    Sad ,i like it

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