The Super Bowl

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  1. Rich

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    Great link, thanx. I particularly liked this line: But history and statistics both suggest that caution is often the worse move.

    If General Patton could have coached in the NFL he would have attacked, attacked, attacked. Works for an army, would have worked for the Packers. I can understand why he had those two early field goals kicked, tho. Even in baseball, the more aggressive teams seem to do better.

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  2. Athlon646464

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    That's the IXth time I've heard that today....
     
  3. Steve

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    Ya. if he went one for two on those fourth downs, that extra 1 point net might have made the difference in regulation. And even if he went 0-2, the crappy field position for Seattle might have provided other opportunities. Easy for us to say, tho. :p
     
  4. Rich

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    In retrospect, yes. At the time I was hoping they'd go for the touchdowns and those field goals probably cost them the game. But, who knows, the lucky teams seem to do some things that always work.

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  5. Stewart Vernon

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    The roman numerals are what make for cool graphics and logos.

    Super Bowl 49

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    Super Bowl XLIX


    You can make a much cooler logo out of the one using the roman numerals.
     
  6. MysteryMan

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    I agree. A lot more flare using Roman numerals.
     
  7. James Long

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    Next year would be Super Bowl L. It would be as good as time as any to stop. L does not look like a numeral. But here is a story from last June ...

    NFL to ditch Roman numerals for Super Bowl 50

    Due to concerns over using a sole “L” for the 50th Super Bowl logo, the 2016 NFL championship will be known as Super Bowl 50. The league has used a Roman numeral to denote every title game since Super Bowl V.
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/nfl-super-bowl-50-roman-numerals-l

    Next year's cool logo:
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  9. Laxguy

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    I don't really pay attention, though I've read about it LVIII times.

    Kinda lame after reading the other posts. But we're on the same page. SB 50 definitely looks better than SB L.
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    50 is probably the exception that proves the rule :)

    Although... there is a finger/thumb "L" over the Super Bowl trophy logo idea in my head that would work well for a blowout game if that turned out to be the case next year :)
     
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  11. Steve

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    I've seen a couple of Brady sneaks over the years, but had no idea he was so good at it. From The New York Times:

     
  12. satexplorer

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    October 2012 Patriots led Seahawks in the third quarter. The game was played in Seattle. Seahawks won 24-23.

    The same two teams play on neutral venue for this game. As of now, it's still a pick 'em game. Keep watching that line during halftime.
     
  13. Rich

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    I had noticed that over the years. I didn't realize he was that effective.

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  14. Laxguy

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    I've asked this in another thread, but this has wider distribution, and is simply: Why isn't the SB broadcast in 1080p?
     
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    Answered in other thread by slice:

    And I believe 1080i @ 60 fps is better still....but we get what we'll get.
     
  16. Stewart Vernon

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    1080i 60fps is the equivalent of 1080p 30fps the way it all shakes out... which is still better than the typically delivered 1080p 24fps on most providers for VOD and the like. I don't know that there is a broadcast standard that even includes 1080p at 60fps... and there would be a LOT of displays out there that cannot handle it so I'm not sure it should be expected any time soon.

    1080p 60fps looks like it might be leapfrogged by 4K since it would require revisiting standards anyway, so why not go up to 4K? Not that we will get that in high-quality "soon" but I expect to see low-end 4K broadcast and never see 1080p 60fps now.
     
  17. Laxguy

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    I thought the 24 fps was a long time film (read: movie) standard and that 30 fps didn't look quite right. I am sure someone can explain more fully- or refute.
     
  18. James Long

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    When converting 24 fps film to p/30 or i/60 video the additional frames are created, usually through a pulldown process.

    I'm not sure why p/24 did not catch on for movie channels ... perhaps it is because early HD sets did not do 1080p/24 and programmers wanted their programming to be seen without the TV doing the conversion. 1080p/24 is a valid standard that is required to be able to be tuned by every ATSC tuner - but I do not believe anyone is using it OTA.
     
  19. trh

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    You're not saying it's OK to cheat, are you?
     
  20. Stewart Vernon

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    Conversion is a horse of another color. I think a lot of people hear bad things about one format or another that is really the result of a conversion factor that is imprecise. I think if something was shot natively at 30fps it would be fine... but something shot at 24fps and then transmitted at 30fps can sometimes be awkward.

    Yeah... that's what kind of surprises me... when you figure movies are filmed that way... it seems like a natural fit for the mostly movie channel to transmit in 1080p 24fps. It would actually save some bandwidth over 1080i 60fps too. You may be right, though, about all the early HDTVs that didn't support that mode. My first HDTV did not... the one I have now does... no telling how many HDTVs still in service that don't support 1080p 24fps as a valid mode.
     

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