You and a few others continue to miss the point here. It is not in Tivo's interest to just get paid that 200 mil and shut off some DISH DVR's and be done with it. The intent of the whole case was to make everyone take notice that they need to actively license Tivo's patent. The logic was initally sound in that regard, but is less so now, as I stated DirecTV has already given Tivo the finger, and the outcome of this case will not change it. Cablecos continue to be relunctant. So if Tivo's only interest is to get paid the fine and shut down some DISH DVR's they are suicidal, because DISH can easily ramp up the production of new DVR's to replace the old ones, and 200 mil is pocket change for just Charlie himself alone. Keep in mind DISH is in the process of going full MPEG4 anyway, so it will be shooting two birds with one stone. Those MPEG2 DVR's belong in the landfill anyway. A patent is uesless if no one is using it.