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The Walking Dead OAD 02/10/2013 "The Suicide King"

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by cj9788, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. litex2x

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    Not even a full day without Daryl and the groups already falling apart. :rolleyes:
     
  2. hbkbiggestfan

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    No. I didn't get even a subtle impression of that at all. I mean if she had got raped, they would have made it known one way or another. Maybe Glenn just thinks she's lying to him (about not getting raped) to keep him from going crazy, which has, in turn, made him paranoid.
     
  3. hbkbiggestfan

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    Daryl is gonna get sick of Merle's bs real quick and miss Carol and the group too much. He'll be back by season's end. I'm just waiting for Rick and the Governor to finally meet face-to-face. But first, Rick needs to get his stuff together!
     
  4. cj9788

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    Daryl and Merle will be back in next weeks episode, at least from the preview they showed for next week.

    I saw a behind the scenes video they shot and apparently Rick has not slept since Lori died. According to Herschel Rick has not slept in 3 days. I can see exhaustion and hallucinations kicking in after going so long without rest. Hopefully that is all he needs is a good nights sleep.....


    http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-de...episode-309-the-walking-dead-the-suicide-king
     
  5. hbkbiggestfan

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    Good insight. Might want to post "POTENTIAL SPOILER" on top though.

    I know Daryl and Merle will still be on-screen. I was talking about Daryl coming back to the group before season's end...
     
  6. Stewart Vernon

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    You have missed the entire point of the show then...

    The show is based off of a comic book that has been running for 10 years or so now.

    The comic was created and inspired by the original Night of the Living Dead. Essentially, the creator said "what if" I continued the story from that original Romero movie and followed a different group of characters around for a while.

    That's it... that's the premise... it is like "Night of the Living Dead" the series essentially... so it is what it supposed to be if you find it too reminiscent of Romero movies.
     
  7. Maruuk

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    No, you missed the point of "what if". That implies extending the horizons of the original premise, taking it somewhere, opening up new possibilities and even to some extent a re-imagining of the tired genre. None of that occurred.

    The fact that it's a commercial success is fine with me, Jersey Shore, Honey Boo Boo and Buckwild are big hits as well. Britney Spears and Justin Bieber sell tons of records.
     
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    And we have a "hater". Not your cup o' tea. Fair enough. No one is forcing you to watch it. Don't try to belittle us and our show though...
     
  9. spartanstew

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    Actually, this whole sentence should be in spoiler tags:

     
  10. The Merg

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    I can definitely see that as a possibility.

    - Merg
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    It doesn't imply that at all.

    IF one poses "what if A happened instead of B happening" then yes, I would agree there should be changes.

    But that is not what is in play here.

    This is "what if the story continued instead of ending"... which means it uses the movie as a jumping off point and runs from there in its own direction, one assumes might be a logical continuation from the original movie.

    The original Night of the Living Dead shows you essentially day 1 of the world where the Walking Dead exists. The story we are following in Walking Dead is that of some of the survivors, and we jump into the story maybe a month after that day one event from the movie.

    The show isn't pretending to be groundbreaking, you're asking it to be something it isn't.

    Meanwhile, I criticize flaws in the show in other forums... that's fair... but if you're really against the show as it was conceived (which it sounds like you are) then there is not a lot of room for discussion.
     
  12. Maruuk

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    Zombies and vampires are certainly evergreen notions. Which puts all the more responsibility upon producers to say something original in the genres. Twilight and True Blood have certainly done that. Sean of the Dead brought its own brand of nuttiness. The Road was even a zombie flick without the zombies. 28 Days, etc, all put their stamp on the genres.

    Each said "What if" and brought freshness and lively entertainment in staid genres.
     
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    AMC is bringing a new terror show, called creatively enough, "The Terror". Based on the true story of 2 ships trapped in the Canadian Arctic involving cannabalism, it adds a scary monster chasing everybody around.
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    Simon Pegg's movie brought some comedy to the genre... and I liked it.

    What has Twilight or True Blood brought that was "new" though?

    I've watched a few episodes of True Blood but none of Twilight... but from what I have seen and read people talk about... I haven't heard anything new or innovative.

    I won't knock the shows, people like stuff that I don't all the time... but I don't think they are any more original than Walking Dead (which I do like) is.
     
  15. Maruuk

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    Twilight brought intense glamor and teen romance into the classic vamp genre. Added the wolf lore and the competiveness that brings.

    True Blood developed a "Game of Thrones"-sized universe of supers as well as a complete detailed historical and hierarchical record of vampirism.

    Even "Battlestar" took cut-and-dried space opera into a deep analysis of what it means to be human.

    But to give credit to TWD, it does a good job at examining how zombism informs the living on the value of life and the meaning of being human. It develops the zombies a bit beyond Romero's paradigm in that it leaves a shred of the original human in there, just enough to be tragic and poignant. As in the scenes where the cop has to off his zombie wife. That's definitely a level of depth beyond Romero, and of course, it was in the comics as well.
     
  16. spartanstew

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    I thought Anne Rice did that.
     
  17. Stewart Vernon

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    Buffy did that... the TV show moreso than the original movie. I wasn't sure it was completely original then, but it was definitely there.

    Vampires and Werewolves go pretty much all the way back together... the wolf was one form the original Dracula sometimes took even.

    I haven't watched much... I did think that True Blood brought one new thing to the genre, though... that being basically an "acceptance" of vampires. People still don't like them, but I gather True Blood integrated the society more to the point that everybody knew there were vampires and you might find them just hanging out at a bar same as you... rather than skulking about in the night.

    I wanted to like True Blood... but I just couldn't get into it and I bailed on it early in the first season.

    Yes. It is not without flaws... but a lot of people come to Walking Dead expecting zombie fights... but that really isn't what it is about. In the Walking Dead, the story is about the survivors and how they cope (or how they go off the rails)... the zombies are just a tool to create the world environment, not the main story.

    In fact... the phrase "Walking Dead" really is a reference to the survivors, rather than the zombies...
     

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