The Weather Channel and DIRECTV

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  1. sangs

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    If it's so vital to the safety of the public - as TWC claims - then they should allow D* to keep it running at a lower cost while negotiations continue. Otherwise they should shut up their stupid hyperbole machine.
     
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  2. slice1900

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    Safety is a stupid argument, because Directv replaced TWC with another weather channel, and people have locals as well. Are we supposed to believe that only TWC can keep people safe?

    Ironically, the only people likely to complain about losing TWC are people who were watching their reality programs. People who are tuning in for the weather aren't going to care if another weather channel has taken its place.
     
  3. ct_vt_trekker

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    That's funny about outages. When we got hit by Hurricane Sandy and Irene all of my neighbors with Comcast were without Cable for over a week each time- Our D** worked perfectly on generator power. Several of my neighbors switched to D** after the second week+ Comcast outage.
     
  4. dvdmth

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    I heard on a TV report that DirecTV wanted to pay 20% less than they had been paying for the channel and that TWC wanted to raise the price by a penny per sub over the previous cost. That would mean the two sides were quite a bit more than a penny apart, if indeed what I heard was accurate.

    In my opinion, DirecTV would still be greatly overpaying for the channel even with a 20% cut. I think an 80% cut would be closer to the mark.
     
  5. KyL416

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    If the Weather Channel was "essential" and not having it was a "public safety risk" they would be offering the channel for free or be a partnership where all the providers invest in it. They would also drop the reality stuff, go weather 24/7 and cover every severe storm and not just limit it to multistate outbreaks since if you're in the path of a tornado it makes no difference to you if it was spawned from a single cell vs a line affecting the entire midwest.

    It's just as bad as local cable news channels run by a cable provider like NY1, News 12, Blue Ridge 13, Central Florida 13, Service Electric 2, Time Warner Cable News and NECN claiming to serve the public, yet putting their content behind a paywall limited to subscribers of their service along with using a tag line like "ONLY on Cable, Never on FiOS, Never on Satellite"
     
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  6. Gloria_Chavez

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    Weather Company receives 0.13 from 100M subs. That's 156M in annual carriage fees.

    You discount by 80%, then all the other distributors will want the same.

    With about 2B of debt on its balance sheet, its options are limited.
     
  7. damondlt

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    The weather Channel's debt is not my problem.

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  8. Laxguy

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    On top of the fact that TWC had become overpriced at its recent level, before you add ca. $2.4MM. ADD, mind you. At a reported 12 cents a sub, you are talking real money.
     
  9. Laxguy

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    What you say fits perfectly, but I'd say the channel is worth less than half of the reported 12 cents a sub/month.
     
  10. James Long

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    Fun with math indeed ... assume TWC was getting 12c, less than the 13c industry price for the channel. TWC says "pay us what others are paying us" (the penny increase). DirecTV says, no - how about 9.6c (rumored 20% less)? The impasse forms - and now TWC is getting $2.4 million less per month.

    And for TWC that has to hurt ... they are not passing through a per subscriber charge for their programming. They are expecting 12c/13c per subscriber from 100 million subscribers to pay for programming that is not cheaper to provide to 80 million than it was to 100 million.
     
  11. PCampbell

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    Thens there's the add money they are not getting. I bet directv is not missing out on as much money.
     
  12. James Long

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    There were those 20 customers who cancelled. :)
     
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  13. REDSKINSFAN47

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    19 im back with directv already :rotfl:
     
  14. Dude111

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    I have since heard weather nation IS NOT LIVE but on a 3 hour delay!!!!

    The weather channel also has a channel WITH JUST WEATHER,its called WEATHER SCAN!!

    http://weatherchannel.wikia.com/wiki/Weatherscan

    Why doesnt DirecTV carry them?? -- I THINK ITS ALL ABOUT $$$$$ -- WEATHER NATION IS CHEAPER AND IS NOT AS GOOD IF IT INDEED IS NOT LIVE!!
     
  15. KyL416

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    WeatherScan doesn't have a national feed, it's generated locally by an IntelliStar at the cable headend similar to the one that does local on the 8s.

    As for WeatherNation, according to their promos they will be upgrading their graphics and going live in the near future. Prior to DirecTV carrying them they were just a weather service that pre-delivered content for playback while for severe weather it was the local affiliate who broke in for live coverage.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    Actually this is a fantastic precedent. It's letting channels know that they've gotten so many channels and are spreading their stuff out over so much with such a high price that they cannot afford to pay for them all. At Some point they have to fold some of them back into each other again, this is the first step. there first needs to be competition that will help drive prices for certain channels back down to reality.

    The most recent example was FX and FX two there's absolutely zero reason for FX 2. none nada zip. They basically decided that they wanted to not only raise the rates for fx but they wanted to double them after that and therefore added a second FX channel.

    We are passed ridiculousness at this point.

    The weather Channel just happens to be the first real name channel to be sacrificed over the TV landscape the way it is continually grown in both number of channels as well as price per channel which is made everything unsustainable for the consumer.
     
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  17. PCampbell

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  18. don s

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    What they ACTUALLY did that normal customers notice , is take off a channel instead of leaving it on as they negotiate. All I see is post after post about wasteful channels and driving costs down. That's great, no one is arguing against that. My point is that there has to be a way to do that without yanking channels as you negotiate. Whether the channel stays on or not eventually, there are a lot of pissed off customers now, and it doesn't have to be this way.

    I get just as pissed when content owners pull their channels too. It's not just DTV, it's the process that is broken ..
     
  19. dpeters11

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    If TWC told DirecTV to pull it as the contract and extension expired, DirecTV doesn't have any choice in the matter. They have to pull it.
     
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